[Klug-general] OOo ver 3 incompatibility

[Mike Evans]

Mike Rentell wrote:
 > That sounds like a kind invitation from MikeE, but I don't undestand
 > most of it.

yum, or YUM is Yellowdog Update Manager I seem to remember.  For this to 
make any sense you have to know that Yellow Dog was a distribution of 
Linux which did some innovative things and then floundered only to be 
resuscitated as a distro for the X-box or some other game console thingy 
I wouldn't be interested in.

Anyway, one of the good things that came out of it was a package manager 
called yum.  Putting Gentoo to one side (which most people do eventually 
:)  - It has its own software installation manager designed to work with 
source code) that pretty much splits the world into two:  the yummers 
and the apt-getters.

Debian packages come in .deb files, are managed by the apt-* suite of 
programs at the higher level and dpkg program at the low level.  Redhat 
Package Manager packages come in .rpm files, are managed by yum at the 
higher level and the rpm program at the low level.

Traditionally Debian (and by extension Ubuntu) people think that there 
is nothing better than apt-get.  This was true when rpm based distros 
only had the rpm program, but with yum they have something equally handy 
and somewhat more intelligible in terms of command structure IMHO.  This 
is all fairly irrelevant if you don't like command line utilities 
because there are now various GUI tools (synaptics/pirut) which sit over 
either system and make the whole thing a point and click doddle provided 
you don't want to do anything remotely interesting.


Dan Attwood wrote:
> I think the page you need to read in Linux Format is the one that 
> mentions dodgy nvidia drivers in Mandriva! Not got the mag in fornt of 
> me but i can give you the number tonight.
> 
All this to one side - I've just seen Dan's later post on dodgy nvidia 
drivers with Mandriva and suspect that he may be onto something there. 
I've not bought Linux Format in a few months.

Mauriat Miranda has a helpful page on getting and installing nvidia 
drivers using yum and or using the nvidia installer.  It is written for 
Fedora people so it uses the RPMFusion repository which would not be 
suitable for you.  However but the part on using the nvidia installer 
should be applicable to Manriva.  Alternatively there may a suitable yum 
repository for Mandriva. see 
http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-nvidia.html

I am successfully using the nvidia driver, installed from the 
RPMFususion repository using YUM on both Fedora 8 and Fedora 10.  I 
chose this as I wanted more than the 2D support from the 'nv' driver and 
was uncomfortable using the 'nouveau' driver in its present experimental 
state for my main machine.  On F8 I run OOo2 on 10 I have OOo3.

MikeE