[Klug-general] OOo ver 3 incompatibility

Margot margot at lawrence1961.f9.co.uk
Tue Dec 16 17:23:03 UTC 2008


Mike Rentell wrote:
> 
> Mike Evans wrote:
>> Mike Rentell wrote:
>>  > That sounds like a kind invitation from MikeE, but I don't undestand
>>  > most of it.
>>
>> yum, or YUM is Yellowdog Update Manager I seem to remember.  For this to 
>> make any sense you have to know that Yellow Dog was a distribution of 
>> Linux which did some innovative things and then floundered only to be 
>> resuscitated as a distro for the X-box or some other game console thingy 
>> I wouldn't be interested in.
>>
>> Anyway, one of the good things that came out of it was a package manager 
>> called yum.  Putting Gentoo to one side (which most people do eventually 
>> :)  - It has its own software installation manager designed to work with 
>> source code) that pretty much splits the world into two:  the yummers 
>> and the apt-getters.
>>
>> Debian packages come in .deb files, are managed by the apt-* suite of 
>> programs at the higher level and dpkg program at the low level.  Redhat 
>> Package Manager packages come in .rpm files, are managed by yum at the 
>> higher level and the rpm program at the low level.
>>
>> Traditionally Debian (and by extension Ubuntu) people think that there 
>> is nothing better than apt-get.  This was true when rpm based distros 
>> only had the rpm program, but with yum they have something equally handy 
>> and somewhat more intelligible in terms of command structure IMHO.  This 
>> is all fairly irrelevant if you don't like command line utilities 
>> because there are now various GUI tools (synaptics/pirut) which sit over 
>> either system and make the whole thing a point and click doddle provided 
>> you don't want to do anything remotely interesting.
>>
>>
>> Dan Attwood wrote:
>>> I think the page you need to read in Linux Format is the one that 
>>> mentions dodgy nvidia drivers in Mandriva! Not got the mag in fornt of 
>>> me but i can give you the number tonight.
>>>
>> All this to one side - I've just seen Dan's later post on dodgy nvidia 
>> drivers with Mandriva and suspect that he may be onto something there. 
>> I've not bought Linux Format in a few months.
>>
>> Mauriat Miranda has a helpful page on getting and installing nvidia 
>> drivers using yum and or using the nvidia installer.  It is written for 
>> Fedora people so it uses the RPMFusion repository which would not be 
>> suitable for you.  However but the part on using the nvidia installer 
>> should be applicable to Manriva.  Alternatively there may a suitable yum 
>> repository for Mandriva. see 
>> http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-nvidia.html
>>
>> I am successfully using the nvidia driver, installed from the 
>> RPMFususion repository using YUM on both Fedora 8 and Fedora 10.  I 
>> chose this as I wanted more than the 2D support from the 'nv' driver and 
>> was uncomfortable using the 'nouveau' driver in its present experimental 
>> state for my main machine.  On F8 I run OOo2 on 10 I have OOo3.
>>
>> MikeE
>>
> That's all very informative, my apologies for the delay. Many thanks. 
> I've gone back to OOo 2.2.1 under Mandriva 2008.1 after a brief cycle 
> through some other distros to see how I get on. Does Mandriva use YUM? 
> It just seems to have its own getter and installer - perhaps it is YUM 
> with it's badge torn off.
> 

Mandriva uses urpmi, not yum. You might find this useful:

http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Urpmi

-- 
Margot



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