[Klug-general] OOo ver 3 incompatibility
Margot
margot at lawrence1961.f9.co.uk
Tue Dec 16 17:23:03 UTC 2008
Mike Rentell wrote:
>
> Mike Evans wrote:
>> Mike Rentell wrote:
>> > That sounds like a kind invitation from MikeE, but I don't undestand
>> > most of it.
>>
>> yum, or YUM is Yellowdog Update Manager I seem to remember. For this to
>> make any sense you have to know that Yellow Dog was a distribution of
>> Linux which did some innovative things and then floundered only to be
>> resuscitated as a distro for the X-box or some other game console thingy
>> I wouldn't be interested in.
>>
>> Anyway, one of the good things that came out of it was a package manager
>> called yum. Putting Gentoo to one side (which most people do eventually
>> :) - It has its own software installation manager designed to work with
>> source code) that pretty much splits the world into two: the yummers
>> and the apt-getters.
>>
>> Debian packages come in .deb files, are managed by the apt-* suite of
>> programs at the higher level and dpkg program at the low level. Redhat
>> Package Manager packages come in .rpm files, are managed by yum at the
>> higher level and the rpm program at the low level.
>>
>> Traditionally Debian (and by extension Ubuntu) people think that there
>> is nothing better than apt-get. This was true when rpm based distros
>> only had the rpm program, but with yum they have something equally handy
>> and somewhat more intelligible in terms of command structure IMHO. This
>> is all fairly irrelevant if you don't like command line utilities
>> because there are now various GUI tools (synaptics/pirut) which sit over
>> either system and make the whole thing a point and click doddle provided
>> you don't want to do anything remotely interesting.
>>
>>
>> Dan Attwood wrote:
>>> I think the page you need to read in Linux Format is the one that
>>> mentions dodgy nvidia drivers in Mandriva! Not got the mag in fornt of
>>> me but i can give you the number tonight.
>>>
>> All this to one side - I've just seen Dan's later post on dodgy nvidia
>> drivers with Mandriva and suspect that he may be onto something there.
>> I've not bought Linux Format in a few months.
>>
>> Mauriat Miranda has a helpful page on getting and installing nvidia
>> drivers using yum and or using the nvidia installer. It is written for
>> Fedora people so it uses the RPMFusion repository which would not be
>> suitable for you. However but the part on using the nvidia installer
>> should be applicable to Manriva. Alternatively there may a suitable yum
>> repository for Mandriva. see
>> http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-nvidia.html
>>
>> I am successfully using the nvidia driver, installed from the
>> RPMFususion repository using YUM on both Fedora 8 and Fedora 10. I
>> chose this as I wanted more than the 2D support from the 'nv' driver and
>> was uncomfortable using the 'nouveau' driver in its present experimental
>> state for my main machine. On F8 I run OOo2 on 10 I have OOo3.
>>
>> MikeE
>>
> That's all very informative, my apologies for the delay. Many thanks.
> I've gone back to OOo 2.2.1 under Mandriva 2008.1 after a brief cycle
> through some other distros to see how I get on. Does Mandriva use YUM?
> It just seems to have its own getter and installer - perhaps it is YUM
> with it's badge torn off.
>
Mandriva uses urpmi, not yum. You might find this useful:
http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Urpmi
--
Margot
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