[Klug-general] OOo ver 3 incompatibility
michael.rentell at ntlworld.com
Wed Dec 17 12:19:42 UTC 2008
> Mike Rentell wrote:
>> Mike Evans wrote:
>>> Mike Rentell wrote:
>>> > That sounds like a kind invitation from MikeE, but I don't undestand
>>> > most of it.
>>> yum, or YUM is Yellowdog Update Manager I seem to remember. For this
>>> to make any sense you have to know that Yellow Dog was a distribution
>>> of Linux which did some innovative things and then floundered only to
>>> be resuscitated as a distro for the X-box or some other game console
>>> thingy I wouldn't be interested in.
>>> Anyway, one of the good things that came out of it was a package
>>> manager called yum. Putting Gentoo to one side (which most people do
>>> eventually :) - It has its own software installation manager
>>> designed to work with source code) that pretty much splits the world
>>> into two: the yummers and the apt-getters.
>>> Debian packages come in .deb files, are managed by the apt-* suite of
>>> programs at the higher level and dpkg program at the low level.
>>> Redhat Package Manager packages come in .rpm files, are managed by
>>> yum at the higher level and the rpm program at the low level.
>>> Traditionally Debian (and by extension Ubuntu) people think that
>>> there is nothing better than apt-get. This was true when rpm based
>>> distros only had the rpm program, but with yum they have something
>>> equally handy and somewhat more intelligible in terms of command
>>> structure IMHO. This is all fairly irrelevant if you don't like
>>> command line utilities because there are now various GUI tools
>>> (synaptics/pirut) which sit over either system and make the whole
>>> thing a point and click doddle provided you don't want to do anything
>>> remotely interesting.
>>> Dan Attwood wrote:
>>>> I think the page you need to read in Linux Format is the one that
>>>> mentions dodgy nvidia drivers in Mandriva! Not got the mag in fornt
>>>> of me but i can give you the number tonight.
>>> All this to one side - I've just seen Dan's later post on dodgy
>>> nvidia drivers with Mandriva and suspect that he may be onto
>>> something there. I've not bought Linux Format in a few months.
>>> Mauriat Miranda has a helpful page on getting and installing nvidia
>>> drivers using yum and or using the nvidia installer. It is written
>>> for Fedora people so it uses the RPMFusion repository which would not
>>> be suitable for you. However but the part on using the nvidia
>>> installer should be applicable to Manriva. Alternatively there may a
>>> suitable yum repository for Mandriva. see
>>> I am successfully using the nvidia driver, installed from the
>>> RPMFususion repository using YUM on both Fedora 8 and Fedora 10. I
>>> chose this as I wanted more than the 2D support from the 'nv' driver
>>> and was uncomfortable using the 'nouveau' driver in its present
>>> experimental state for my main machine. On F8 I run OOo2 on 10 I
>>> have OOo3.
>> That's all very informative, my apologies for the delay. Many thanks.
>> I've gone back to OOo 2.2.1 under Mandriva 2008.1 after a brief cycle
>> through some other distros to see how I get on. Does Mandriva use YUM?
>> It just seems to have its own getter and installer - perhaps it is YUM
>> with it's badge torn off.
> Mandriva uses urpmi, not yum. You might find this useful:
You know - that clears up another mystery. I had sort of learned by
osmosis that urpmi was a console command but it never worked for me. Now
I learn that it is the name of the application - Doh!.
Some of us are still learning well into retirement. Thanks for that.
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