[Klug-general] MiniPC to compete with eeePC

[Stuart Buckland]

I've just tried to hunt down Intel's bulk pricing guides for the Celeron M &
Pentium M but I haven't had much luck.  I suspect there is a significant
cost difference between the two, even in bulk.  If I remember I'll ask
Intel's Green Grid representative next time I'm in contact.  No promises
though :)

Apart from a project or two within Sun and a handful of start-ups, there
isn't much I'd call exciting going on in the software world either.  But
that's just me ;)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: kent-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:kent-
> bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Andrew Miller (Spode)
> Sent: 31 January 2008 20:47
> To: Kent Linux User Group - General Topics
> Subject: Re: [Klug-general] MiniPC to compete with eeePC
> 
> I think the Via suggestion is a valid one, and I couldn't agree more in
> terms of enthusiasm. Hardware has been getting less and less exciting
> over the past 3-4 years.
> 
>  From memory, the difference in battery life was as much 100%, but when
> taking into account the lower clock speeds, and the fact they have used
> an ultra low voltage chip, the difference might not be as great.
> Certainly the chips would be cheaper as all the Pentium M's with dodgy
> L2 cache can just be stuck in the Celeron bin.
> 
> Citing this article
> (http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/cpu/intel-thermal-features-
> pm.html),
> 
> "It [Pentium M] lacks Enhanced Intel SpeedStep as well as Thermal
> Monitor 2. So, if you buy Celeron M, you *will not be able* to manage
> its performance states or power consumption, as well as to enable the
> effective overheating protection."
> 
> More in the article itself.
> 
> Spode
> 
> Stuart Buckland wrote:
> > While the Pentium M probably would result in slightly longer battery
> life
> > the questions have to be how much longer? And would people be willing
> to pay
> > £x extra for it?
> >
> > As Colin notes, the price point is critical to this products success.
> It's
> > in a very narrow and very immature market segment.
> >
> > If price was not an issue then I think it's safe to say the Celeron
> is not
> > the right platform for a device like this.  I could even argue a VIA
> C7M-ULV
> > would be a better technical choice over the Pentium M.
> >
> > If nothing else it will certainly be interesting to see where Intel's
> > Silverthorne and VIA's Isaiah fall into the market place.  My view?
> At
> > completely opposite ends initially, progressing towards the middle
> ground -
> > and each other - over the subsequent 12 months.
> >
> > It isn't often I get excited over tech these days as hype nearly
> always over
> > shadows innovation but this is a segment I am quite excited about.
> The
> > products should be coming thick and fast over the next couple of
> years and
> > they won't all be rebadged clones.
> >
> > Stu
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: kent-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:kent-
> >> bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Colin McCarthy
> >> Sent: 31 January 2008 19:44
> >> To: Kent Linux User Group - General Topics
> >> Subject: RE: [Klug-general] MiniPC to compete with eeePC
> >>
> >> Wouldn't a Pentium M have made it more expensive? And price is one
> of
> >> it's key selling factors.
> >>
> >> Colin
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: "Andrew Miller (Spode)" <spode at thinkbikes.com>
> >> To: "Alan Pope" <alan at popey.com>; "Kent Linux User Group - General
> >> Topics" <kent at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> >> Sent: 31/01/08 12:31
> >> Subject: Re: [Klug-general] MiniPC to compete with eeePC
> >>
> >> LOL.
> >>
> >> I personally find the built in distro very good. I tweaked it a
> little
> >> to how I wanted it, and got VirtualBox running on it should I need
> >> Windows (which I never really do).
> >>
> >> But the point you make is valid - plugging an external
> >> monitor/keyboard/mouse into it works really well, it's an incredibly
> >> capable PC considering its spec. I just wish they had used a Pentium
> M
> >> instead of a Celeron M and we might have seen better battery life.
> >>
> >> I've just been commissioned to do a 6 page article on the EeePC for
> >> Custom PC, so if anyone has any feelings on specific "how-tos" that
> >> need
> >> to be in there, I'm open to suggestions. It'll be in print and
> online.
> >>
> >> Spode
> >>
> >> Alan Pope wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 12:24:31PM +0000, Colin McCarthy wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On a side note, I have been using an eeePC attached to a 17"
> >>>>
> >> monitor, usb
> >>
> >>>> keyboard and mouse all morning to do my job and it has worked very
> >>>>
> >> well.
> >>
> >>>>  Only problem is it's not running a Linux based OS at the moment.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Given they come with Xandros - that's a user generated problem :)
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Al.
> >>>
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