[Klug-general] The desktop, the future...

nic dan dungeons88 at hotmail.com
Sun Nov 16 23:29:44 UTC 2008

Hi Karl

As a novice linux user I'll put in my 2 penn'orth

I'm interested in junking the outmoded interaction with my PC

Could you look at:-
1 turn on PC
2 "Hello 'user' "
3 "What do you want to do?" - options
4 microphoned response from user - letter/email/DVD/youtube... whatever
5 actioned



> From: karl at qdh.org.uk
> To: kent at mailman.lug.org.uk
> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:35:00 +0000
> Subject: [Klug-general] The desktop, the future...
> So I've touched on this subject in the recent rant of emails. I'm hoping
> to gather some replies from people other than Julia. I ask Julia to
> kindly let other people speak, and by that I mean, please do not reply
> to this email.
> Firstly, I'm going to make a statement of intent. 
> What we intend to do in the coming months and possibly years is to learn
> from the mistakes made in the last 60 years of computing. Mistakes which
> have over time become norms. 
> To begin with we're intending to do some human computer interaction
> (HCI) research, this will require some, what may seem irrelevant
> testing. For instance a bunch of white squares on a black background
> that have certain behaviours. 
> I hope to invite many of you to help with the initial round of testing,
> which will be done via a web browser. We're specifically looking for
> computer users who aren't familiar with Linux desktops, so the newer
> users amongst you are very helpful to us. 
> After we've got data about HCI we'll be moving onto user experience
> (UX), this is like the Apple Lisa tests that I mentioned in my reply to
> Peter.
> We aren't looking to impose our views on people, but some of the
> infrastructure behind what we're doing is built on decades of research
> by other people. The organise framework is a jewel in our crown along
> with wizbit which btw, is not far from actually being complete. We have
> a working implementation but we're still niggling on some design issues,
> we hope that soon we'll have some cool things to release and a version
> controlled file system while we're waiting for other pieces to come
> together.
> We're doing this research and development for you, and everyone like you
> that wants to use the free desktop. We understand some of the major
> problems like the boxing problem and we're looking to extend our
> understanding further, to other problems. 
> In the future we hope to develop what we've learned into a revolutionary
> new computer experience. The desktop metaphor is actually invalid, we've
> seen this and understood it for some time, we understand why it's
> invalid but we also understand that it's been there since the early days
> of GUI's. e.g. I don't put my waste bin on my desk-top, I put it under
> my desk... :) However, we don't want to end up with a metaphor like
> microsoft bob either, its senseless, the desktop is closer to what we
> really need, but there's something broken deep inside of it... We want
> to find it and fix it.
> I invite people to tell me what single interaction gets to them. Any
> workflow that people perform that is irritating or simply broken.
> A good example of this came up recently with the icon designers of the
> tango project. They were using multiple files to create icons, they'd
> start off with a vector graphic, and then they'd produce various sizes
> of that graphic in separate files. Someone then introduced One Canvas
> workflow, I think it was Jimmac but can't be sure as it was a while ago.
> One canvas allowed the graphic designers to draw their images in
> inkscape, at various sizes and split out from the canvas the various
> sizes. It was a simple change to a work flow but has sped design of
> icons up quite dramatically. 
> If any of you have any ideas I'm willing to listen and discuss them with
> you. Cantankerous rants are appreciated to, hate something in GNOME or
> KDE? Tell me, and I'll take it into consideration.
> Best Regards,
>  K
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