[Klug-general] Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity and thenVirtualBox printing
Michael E. Rentell
michael.rentell at ntlworld.com
Wed May 25 13:46:31 UTC 2011
Your first line is correct. It worked yesterday under PCLOS which is
very annoying. Beginning to think that ubuntu might have been a mistake
but it should all work if only I can figure out why the connection is
being refused.
As for Saturday er thanks for the invitation but this computer setup is
big enough to be climbing out of the small bedroom so I can't just lug
it along to the LUG.
I'll keep trying all kind suggestions until I lose patience and then I
suppose I'll have to go back to PCLOS which just works but I just wanted
to get mainstream so that I can follow everything in Linux Format
Magazine instead of just some of it. Also I have a 64-bit PC and PCLOS
only supplies a 32-bit setup. Not a big deal, but it does make a bit of
a difference on speed and responsiveness.
It seems that Ubuntu isn't as forgiving as they would have you believe ,
no matter what folk at Linux Towers encourage us to believe.
MkeR
On 25/05/11 14:23, David Halliday wrote:
> I believe that he is using Ubuntu to host a printer that is installed
> using USB. So VirtualBox USB support should not be an issue.
>
> The only printer that I use at home is a network one so I have not
> configured any printer server stuff, it might be worth looking at samba
> configuration for the printer, again not sure where that is in Unity.
>
> If you are still struggling bring it along on Saturday.
>
> On 25 May 2011 14:03, Alex Layfield <alex.layfield at sky.com
> <mailto:alex.layfield at sky.com>> wrote:
>
> Sometimes u have to add stuff in the user permissions....
>
> Also, found that VBox latest doeesn't do usb v well, so perhaps roll
> back to 4.2 or 4.4...?
>
>
> /A
>
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> Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 13:57:08
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> Subject: Re: [Klug-general] Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity and then
> VirtualBox printing
> Right. Tried that and the connection still seems to be valid. At least I
> can use MSIE under the VB/Windows program to see the Internet.
>
> However looking for the printers still doesn't work although,
> interestingly, the Windows failure notice is different. Instead of
> saying that the printer doesn't exist or that the connection is wrong,
> it now says that it cannot connect to that printer. It is almost as
> though it can see the printer but is stopped from doing so.
>
> Under Unity/Ubunutu you have to look around a bit for the System
> Settings menu - it's under your username in the top right-hand corner
> and took me ages to find.
>
> I've taken another look at that and the printer stuff there and I've now
> noticed that although I've clicked both printers as 'enabled' and
> 'shared' there is a notice that says 'not published see server
> settings'.
>
> Not sure what I'm supposed to do about that but I shall keep ferreting
> around.
>
> Thanks for your time on this.
>
> MikeR
>
> On 25/05/11 12:41, David Halliday wrote:
> > NAT = Network Address Translation
> > There is a translation of IP addresses (the phone numbers
> computers use
> > to connect to each other) managed by the VM software, this can cause
> > problems when you try to communicate with other devices on the
> network.
> >
> > Easy thing to try is to change this to 'bridged' where the VM
> software
> > then makes the virtual machine more independent. Advantage of this is
> > that the translation does not occur making the network stuff more
> > transparent. NAT on the other hand is easier to configure for
> setting up
> > the VM.
> >
> > Once the configuration is changed restart the VM. it might then
> see the
> > shared printer easily.
> >
> > How is your internet configured? is it managed by a router of
> some sort
> > using DHCP of is the internet connected directly to the host
> computer?
> >
> >
> > On 25 May 2011 12:26, Michael E. Rentell
> <michael.rentell at ntlworld.com <mailto:michael.rentell at ntlworld.com>
> > <mailto:michael.rentell at ntlworld.com
> <mailto:michael.rentell at ntlworld.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Those are the sort of questions I should have covered first. I am
> > using the very simplest of self-setup so the VirtualBox has found
> > its own connection to my PC and the startup box says it is NAT
> > (whatever that means - I'm not very clued-up - just a satisfied
> > Linux user).
> >
> > The printer is one of two, the other is an Okipage 14ex laser
> page
> > printer. Both are plugged into USB sockets on the desktop
> Linux PC
> > and Ubuntu just found them and installed them. I've checked their
> > names in the printer setup dialogue and used those names in the
> > Windows dialogue. What's so irritating is that under PCLOS it
> 'just
> > worked'.
> >
> > Any ideas you might have would be very welcome - thanks in
> advance.
> >
> > MikeR
> >
> > On 25/05/11 12:12, David Halliday wrote:
> >> What sort of network configuration do you have on the VM?
> >> NAT or Bridged
> >>
> >> Sometimes using NAT confuses incoming connections.
> >>
> >> Is the printer on a wireless part of the network? I have found
> >> that including wireless jumps to get to printers can make the
> >> networking a complete headache.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 25 May 2011 11:57, Michael E. Rentell
> >> <michael.rentell at ntlworld.com <mailto:michael.rentell at ntlworld.com>
> >> <mailto:michael.rentell at ntlworld.com
> <mailto:michael.rentell at ntlworld.com>>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Good morning all,
> >>
> >> I took the plunge and installed Ubuntu 11.04 under
> Unity. Bit
> >> of a steep learning curve but very interesting. Everything
> >> seems to have been installed OK.
> >>
> >> My one big need is VirtualBox to run my Sage accounts under
> >> windoze. That also installed OK but the existing printer
> links
> >> don't work as they did when the Linux was PCLOS. I used to
> >> have the printer under PCLOS/VB/windoze as a network printer
> >> with the address as:
> >>
> >> http://192.168.2.2:631/printers/EpsonRX520 and it worked fine.
> >>
> >> I've checked under Unity and the printer still has that name
> >> and the properties show that it is ticked as 'shared'
> but the
> >> VB/Windows doesn't find it. So I uninstalled it and tried
> >> again with no luck
> >>
> >> Am I doing something silly here? Is there a different
> form of
> >> address under Unity/Gnome. I have no experience of the
> latter
> >> as previously the systems was KDE.
> >>
> >> Any suggestions gratefully received.
> >>
> >> MikeR
> >> in Folkestone
> >>
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