[Klug-general] Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity and thenVirtualBox printing
Michael E. Rentell
michael.rentell at ntlworld.com
Wed May 25 13:40:16 UTC 2011
Thanks for that Alex but unfortunately I'm not Linux savvy enough to
understand much of that. I'm still using the same version of VirtualBox
as I was using yesterday under PCLOS which 'just worked' so I'm not sure
why I need to roll back. I'm afraid your first suggestion missed me
completely. I'll need a bit more detail before I can follow that advice
- sorry - bear of very little brain. I've checked the Users dialogue
under System Settings and ticked a few more boxes although none of them
seemed relevant.
Then I popped up the VB/Windows and tried to install a printer and I got
the Windows message: 'Windows cannot connect to the printer. Operation
could not be completed.'
That says to me that we are one stage closer now, Windows can see the
printer but is being refused. Dunno why.
MikeR
On 25/05/11 14:03, Alex Layfield wrote:
> Sometimes u have to add stuff in the user permissions....
>
> Also, found that VBox latest doeesn't do usb v well, so perhaps roll back to 4.2 or 4.4...?
>
>
> /A
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Michael E. Rentell"<michael.rentell at ntlworld.com>
> Sender:kent-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk
> Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 13:57:08
> To: Kent Linux User Group - General Topics<kent at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Reply-To:michael.rentell at ntlworld.com,
> Kent Linux User Group - General Topics<kent at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Cc: David Halliday<david.halliday at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Klug-general] Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity and then
> VirtualBox printing
> Right. Tried that and the connection still seems to be valid. At least I
> can use MSIE under the VB/Windows program to see the Internet.
>
> However looking for the printers still doesn't work although,
> interestingly, the Windows failure notice is different. Instead of
> saying that the printer doesn't exist or that the connection is wrong,
> it now says that it cannot connect to that printer. It is almost as
> though it can see the printer but is stopped from doing so.
>
> Under Unity/Ubunutu you have to look around a bit for the System
> Settings menu - it's under your username in the top right-hand corner
> and took me ages to find.
>
> I've taken another look at that and the printer stuff there and I've now
> noticed that although I've clicked both printers as 'enabled' and
> 'shared' there is a notice that says 'not published see server settings'.
>
> Not sure what I'm supposed to do about that but I shall keep ferreting
> around.
>
> Thanks for your time on this.
>
> MikeR
>
> On 25/05/11 12:41, David Halliday wrote:
>> NAT = Network Address Translation
>> There is a translation of IP addresses (the phone numbers computers use
>> to connect to each other) managed by the VM software, this can cause
>> problems when you try to communicate with other devices on the network.
>>
>> Easy thing to try is to change this to 'bridged' where the VM software
>> then makes the virtual machine more independent. Advantage of this is
>> that the translation does not occur making the network stuff more
>> transparent. NAT on the other hand is easier to configure for setting up
>> the VM.
>>
>> Once the configuration is changed restart the VM. it might then see the
>> shared printer easily.
>>
>> How is your internet configured? is it managed by a router of some sort
>> using DHCP of is the internet connected directly to the host computer?
>>
>>
>> On 25 May 2011 12:26, Michael E. Rentell<michael.rentell at ntlworld.com
>> <mailto:michael.rentell at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Those are the sort of questions I should have covered first. I am
>> using the very simplest of self-setup so the VirtualBox has found
>> its own connection to my PC and the startup box says it is NAT
>> (whatever that means - I'm not very clued-up - just a satisfied
>> Linux user).
>>
>> The printer is one of two, the other is an Okipage 14ex laser page
>> printer. Both are plugged into USB sockets on the desktop Linux PC
>> and Ubuntu just found them and installed them. I've checked their
>> names in the printer setup dialogue and used those names in the
>> Windows dialogue. What's so irritating is that under PCLOS it 'just
>> worked'.
>>
>> Any ideas you might have would be very welcome - thanks in advance.
>>
>> MikeR
>>
>> On 25/05/11 12:12, David Halliday wrote:
>>> What sort of network configuration do you have on the VM?
>>> NAT or Bridged
>>>
>>> Sometimes using NAT confuses incoming connections.
>>>
>>> Is the printer on a wireless part of the network? I have found
>>> that including wireless jumps to get to printers can make the
>>> networking a complete headache.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 May 2011 11:57, Michael E. Rentell
>>> <michael.rentell at ntlworld.com
>>> <mailto:michael.rentell at ntlworld.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good morning all,
>>>
>>> I took the plunge and installed Ubuntu 11.04 under Unity. Bit
>>> of a steep learning curve but very interesting. Everything
>>> seems to have been installed OK.
>>>
>>> My one big need is VirtualBox to run my Sage accounts under
>>> windoze. That also installed OK but the existing printer links
>>> don't work as they did when the Linux was PCLOS. I used to
>>> have the printer under PCLOS/VB/windoze as a network printer
>>> with the address as:
>>>
>>> http://192.168.2.2:631/printers/EpsonRX520 and it worked fine.
>>>
>>> I've checked under Unity and the printer still has that name
>>> and the properties show that it is ticked as 'shared' but the
>>> VB/Windows doesn't find it. So I uninstalled it and tried
>>> again with no luck
>>>
>>> Am I doing something silly here? Is there a different form of
>>> address under Unity/Gnome. I have no experience of the latter
>>> as previously the systems was KDE.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions gratefully received.
>>>
>>> MikeR
>>> in Folkestone
>>>
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