[Klug-general] Next KLUG Meeting

Thu Mar 12 12:40:43 UTC 2015

On 11/03/15 13:36, John Cundy wrote:
> Don't know if it helps but rather than pub has anybody ever tried to 
> get a room at a social club. A lot of them have rooms , and would be 
> glad of the trade, no idea of cost though it shouldn't be a lot

The point being cost and one we have to recoup back by those present as 
we have no subscription so if few turn up it can be quite a bit for 
those to stump up, of course if lots turn up its not so bad. Yes I admit 
if we were to go down a proper paid subscription then rooms won't be a 
problem but then with that comes doing AGMs, having a constitution, 
chasing people for subs, banking, the list goes on. I don't have time 
for that personally and if anyone has and wants to take that on then I'm 
happy to hand it over.

One way or the other there are 'challenges' to over come, and with the 
current setup then there is less admin to do. Again this is double edged 
as it means I don't have it as a priority to make something more to 
boost it.

There has been a user group for over 10 years now, and the Linux 
environment has changed, one we've brought up a number of times about if 
there is a need for the user group. Those of you who support KLUG, thank 
you, its good to know it still has some life left in it.

The drive as always is use it or lose it. We need locations that allow 
free us so we can be as open to as many people as possible. With bums on 
seats things will change.

Yes I do agree that social clubs are a good option, however you often 
need to be a member and then have limited numbers of guests. If we need 
multiple locations that then becomes an expense individually. If we then 
need to use the room as a non-member then raising funds. Years ago I 
would fund some of this via my private Linux work but I don't do that 
(private Linux work) any more so sponsorship is one way. But then we 
don't really do much advertising for a sponsor to benefit from.

It's quite frankly a night mare :-)

Anyway we're still looking at options and will check out a few pubs as 
that may be a quick one to get something back running. Any offers will 
be looked at though.

Thanks
Kev

PS sorry for the rant. :-)

>
> On 11/03/15 13:10, Dan Attwood wrote:
>>> We've tried and its not been great we could have another go, on a casual
>> basis its not workable but a fixed time maybe. Google hang out
>>> may be the best way as it supports a fair number of people. We've had
>> this discussion before about trying mumble too.
>>
>> agreed we've tried this before and it's not always worked well. I suggest
>> hangouts is the best way forward though as it should just work for
>> everyone. No need for a mumble server & client.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11 March 2015 at 12:27, Kevin Groves<kgroves at cix.co.uk>  wrote:
>>
>>>   On 10/03/15 12:45, Glen Skiner wrote:
>>>
>>> No worries.
>>>
>>> I like the sound of pub meets.  It's quite informal, not that klugs where
>>> formal!
>>>
>>>
>>> Quite :-)
>>>
>>>   But should we want to display anything on your projector it could be a
>>> bit awkward unless they had a function room for us to use.
>>>
>>>
>>> Could be worth looking into those really small pocket projectors and we
>>> can then shine it against the wall.
>>>
>>>   If we go down the route of trying to obtain grants on a semi-regular
>>> basis I can gather the necessary information if needed.  I would also not
>>> mind in becoming a trustee though not the treasurer....!!! :-$
>>>
>>>
>>> LOL thanks. Its not a route I wan't to go down. I've been resisting it
>>> ever since we started as that was from where we first came.
>>>
>>> As for virtual meetings I'm sure many of you know there are a few ways to
>>> achieve this;
>>>
>>> - Mumble,
>>> - Jitsi,
>>> - Hangouts,
>>> - Skype,
>>> - Combinations of the above,
>>> - IRC,
>>> - Etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> We've tried and its not been great we could have another go, on a casual
>>> basis its not workable but a fixed time maybe. Google hang out may be the
>>> best way as it supports a fair number of people. We've had this discussion
>>> before about trying mumble too.
>>>
>>> Kev
>>>
>>>   On 10 Mar 2015 12:28, "Kevin Groves"<kgroves at cix.co.uk>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Glen I have grabbed a copy and will take a look.
>>>>
>>>> One of the venues has now gone so I'm just waiting on one other and
>>>> hopefully that option will provide us with some dates.
>>>>
>>>> Other than that, we will need to pay for venues. I have found I can
>>>> obtain a grant which would help but that also requires a more official
>>>> structure of the user group and one I don't want to pursue as I don't have
>>>> the time to focus on it. If anyone wants to discuss that option as they do
>>>> have the time then please speak up (it in essence revolves around creating
>>>> bank accounts, having policies and a general proper club format).
>>>>
>>>> Another option considering we are lacking venues is to go to social
>>>> meetings in pubs and seeing most are empty they perhaps won't mind. Just
>>>> makes it difficult to ensure we have space to sit and of course then limits
>>>> the options as far as doing things. But if you want to have face to face
>>>> meetings then this may be the way.
>>>>
>>>> The worst case is we go completely virtual and only have online meetings
>>>> or just continue to exist on this mailing list. The same old conundrum.
>>>>
>>>> Kev
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/03/15 09:42, Glen Skiner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> MVA Membership Pack
>>>>>
>>>>> I asked for, but did not receive, their membership pack.  I called today
>>>>> and got a response.  Here are the files on my GDrive.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B5BC8PjvyHmeUVppQUNNa1p4cHM/edit
>>>>>
>>>>> Glen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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