[Lancaster] Fwd: Virtual box fedora install

Thu Oct 15 17:55:46 UTC 2009

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> From: Wayne Ward <wayne at lancastercomputers.co.uk>
> Date: 15 October 2009 18:55:24 GMT+01:00
> To: Gareth Lees <ridecar2 at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Lancaster] Virtual box fedora install
>
> Yes i was looking at testing with that - for small to medium  
> businesses I usually get them a dell of the shelf with red hat  
> included
> so centos is good for testing m8 good idea
>
> and your back !!! im just trying to get a email address fixed for a  
> good friend of mine who is watching the mailing list but cant reply...
> im on with it right now...
>
> wayne
>
> On 15 Oct 2009, at 18:33, Gareth Lees wrote:
>
>> If you're going to try something like rh server go for centos, rhel  
>> but free!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 15 Oct 2009, at 18:09, Wayne Ward  
>> <wayne at lancastercomputers.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi ken i hope i am ready for rpm as i am rhce and rhct registered!!!
>>> and been using red hat from day one!!!
>>> commercially ive had clusters running and from a personal point of  
>>> view i preferred gentoo on the boxes!!
>>> but when it comes to getting external support for the servers  
>>> incase i get hit by a bus they tend to ask for red hat servers
>>> i know novell and ubuntu have support packages and are commercial  
>>> all the corporates i deal with and have dealt with in the past ten  
>>> years
>>> will only offer support on red hat.
>>> When i have been doing the different installs id say out of the  
>>> newbie installs id go for ubuntu for a few simple reasons - the  
>>> easiest install - probably the most popular and easiest to get  
>>> help on and its probably got all the tools you need to configure  
>>> it in the menus and installs plugins and hardware drivers out of  
>>> the box!!! plus it comes on one cd!! one of the reasons i never  
>>> tested suse is because ih has three cd's or one dvd !! - i tested  
>>> fedora because it was a one cd distro but probably wouldnt waste  
>>> another cd on it again!!
>>>
>>> on another side when you move onto the next level gentoo is  
>>> quality i love it i just feels great - arch came in second - zen ?  
>>> mmm dont know about this one! and on another level netbsd was easy  
>>> install - fast install - but need to learn how to administer it -  
>>> I think ill just be sticking to gentoo!!!
>>>
>>> the summary is ill be using ubuntu for friends customers and  
>>> recomondations to newbies - serves it a toss up between debian and  
>>> ubuntu im going to to test both next week and see whats gong to be  
>>> best for this i might even try red hat server!!!
>>> for me for my own linux boxes im going to use gentoo - im just  
>>> going to build one thats going to run full time in a virtual box  
>>> on my server that link checks all my sites and emails me bad links  
>>> on my sites and also use it as a nagios that monitors all my web  
>>> services and servers - ill get this to text me when something  
>>> drops off line!!! - nice project ive set quite a few of these up
>>>
>>> ps check me next email folks.... (after ive had a brew!)
>>>
>>> wayne
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15 Oct 2009, at 17:15, Ken Hough wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday 14 October 2009 20:39:50 Wayne Ward wrote:
>>>>> Just tested a fedora install on a virtual box - it never saw the  
>>>>> drive
>>>>> saw changed the chipset type from PIIX4 to PIIX3 and its working
>>>>> must admit its very much the same as ubuntu from the outside
>>>>
>>>> Appearances Gnome and KDE aren't going to differ too much between  
>>>> distros.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> going to
>>>>> look at administration tools on the system and then have a look at
>>>>> dare i say it RPM ....
>>>>
>>>> Come on! Be brave!  :-)
>>>>
>>>> Seriously, RPM can be approached either via the basic 'rpm' tool,  
>>>> or via a
>>>> decent installation manager like (present day) Yast. In the  
>>>> former case,
>>>> dependencies are flagged up but not installed. In the later case,  
>>>> just like
>>>> under the Ububtu/Debian managers, all should be automatically  
>>>> attended to.
>>>>
>>>> and for those who do not wish to use a GUI manager, Yast can run  
>>>> under a
>>>> terminal screen via ncurses.
>>>>
>>>> Red Hat and SUSE are both well respected at the corporate level,  
>>>> so RPM can't
>>>> be too bad.  ;-)
>>>>
>>>>> 6/10 for a install to many questions and giving a root password  
>>>>> havent
>>>>> done that for a while!!.. the boot screen just put me off full  
>>>>> style
>>>>> ive kept the iso incase anyone wants to see the install
>>>>
>>>> I have Fedora 10, Debian 5, Ubuntu 9, and other distros and OSes  
>>>> installed
>>>> under Virtual Box. I'm now reasonably comfortable with using  
>>>> (playing with?)
>>>> all of these distros, but I have yet to see any good reason to  
>>>> move away from
>>>> my present base system of openSUSE 11.1.
>>>>
>>>> To some extent it comes down to what one is used to. Let's face  
>>>> it,  all of
>>>> the main stream distros are pretty damn good these days.
>>>>
>>>> I recommend that newbies DO NOT set about TRYING OUT various  
>>>> distros. They are
>>>> different and more or less guaranteed to confuse. Choose a distro  
>>>> according
>>>> to what you think is needed and at least to begin with, STICK  
>>>> WITH IT!
>>>>
>>>> Wayne, I'm not suggesting that you are a newbie. Perhaps you  
>>>> might be ready
>>>> for RPM.   ;-)  ;-)  ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ken Hough
>>>>
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>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Wayne ward
>>>
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>>>
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> Regards,
> Wayne ward
>
> 07957448652
> Lancaster Computers
>
> www.lancastercomputers.co.uk
> wayne at lancastercomputers.co.uk
>
> Computers - Laptops - Servers - Web Services
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Regards,
Wayne ward

07957448652
Lancaster Computers

www.lancastercomputers.co.uk
wayne at lancastercomputers.co.uk

Computers - Laptops - Servers - Web Services

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