[Liverpool] Iceweasel

[Bryn Pritchard]

To be honest I have used both Iceweasel and Ff on Debianamd Ubuntu.  
The experience I had was not terrible for either browser. I had untold  
trouble with Opera, for the life in me I could not get Flash to work.  
Thatsaid as a browser it was alot slicker than either of the Mozilla  
based browsers. Lets not fudge things here by introducing a browser  
for an operating emvirent that so weak and full of flaws and failings  
that it makes a plan by Baldrick se like a good idea. Even in it's  
latest incarnation rather than fix the problems it's authors are  
trying to bully website devs into using it's buggy standards.

Sent from my iPhone

On 6 Sep 2009, at 14:12, Vladimir <vladimir.jakubovskij at gmail.com>  
wrote:

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> the reason i suggested such a heretical action is was simply to  
> emplore you to (and i quote you directly) "see with your own eyes"  
> that the alternative browsers for Windows, when compared to their  
> Linux* brethen, are faster and more responsive.
> considering that it is quite obvious that you haven't used Windows  
> for quite some time,
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> actually i NEVER had windows installed on any of my computers. but  
> that doesn't mean that i didn't see
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> how that works (on the machines that are not mine). once again will  
> have to repeat myself: yes, firefox works better on mac os x than on  
> linux so i know the difference and the problems that exist.
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> i fail to see how you can voraciously claim that the viewpoint of  
> Simon and myself is incorrect.
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> well, what i want to say. hope you will listen carefully.
> when simon replied originally to the first email of this thread, he  
> made a point that the "browser experience" on linux is so bad, that  
> it is unusable (at least for him, so he switched to windows7).
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> yes, i don't agree with that. well, this is my viewpoint. and i can  
> assure you, i have strong arguments to support it, but that would  
> spawn this discussion far beyond browser experience.
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> or maybe you want me to agree on this:
> >It's sad, because I enjoyed every other part of the Linux. But  
> Linux without a half decent browser is practically useless.
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> no, i won't ever agree, that FF (linux) and Opera can't even qualify  
> as "half-decent" browser.
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> you have absolutely NO correlation on this subject.
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> once again, don't be so sure about other ppl experiences and what  
> they know or think. helps making some insulting statements. like the  
> one above.
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> as for this debate, the only thing i have left to say is said with  
> the greatest amount of humour i can throw onto my sword:
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> in communist russia, the mailing list eats you!
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> that is how it was meant in the first place - with a greatest  
> ammount of humour. some ppl just too take things too seriously  
> sometimes.
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> http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1880/linuxcommunist.jpg :)
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> 2009/9/6 Vladimir <vladimir.jakubovskij at gmail.com>
> p.s. those strict rules work well for those groups mentioned. it  
> makes ppl stay focused on solving problems rather than saying, oh it  
> doesn't work that well, so let's move to windows (or give it a try,  
> as it was in this thread).
> and that is one of the reasons, russian (as an example that i have  
> been a witness for many years now) linux communities are really  
> strong. if it doesn't work, so let's see how to make it work. that's  
> is the attitude i employ. that is what makes me a linux user.
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