Yo I have been called out to sort out the rennit content in elf cheese making but I will try and get back in time for the meeting, If I don't manage it make sure they give you enough buscuits for the cheese. -- Cheers Phil Ironside Creative Spaces 01684-561495 http://creativespaces.co.uk http://malvern.lug.org.uk http://birmingham.pm.org