[Nottingham] NanNet

James Duncan nottingham at mailman.lug.org.uk
Thu Feb 13 14:00:00 2003

I am also in NG7 and I am *VERY* interested in this.  I am on a 
broadband connection and would be willing to donate bandwidth also. 
 Would any one be interested in divying up a really big pipe?


Lee wrote:

>Thanks for the positive feedback on naan, 
>well range is a problem, but if you get up high enough, you can basicly
>avoid all the crap that's flying around, you've got theree channels to
>use, so there always a way, but you need to be able to see a naan node
>to connect :-). Ng7 is a small target area, so range is not a problem,
>range is never a problem if you know enough like minded people,
>something than naan does'nt have a problem with.
>With the right equipment you can get 500m , with the right equipment and
>the right skilzzzzzz then you can get further and still remain at the
>legal transmittion output. Most people are into use onmi directional
>atenna , which are great for coverage, but as well transmitting in all
>directions, they also pick up interference from all directions too :-(,
>which is bad. Naan uses direction atenna's, over short distances to
>create a wireless mesh network, stick ip routing on the top
>and...bingo... reliable, fast , and secure...did I say secure...yeah
>secure... but your going to have to trust us on that :-)...
>As for internet access, well I'm not too bothered about that, radford
>has enough web sites built here to make the internal network worth using
>for it's users, internet access to me, is well, not on my list of
>priorities, so I don't think we'll be pissing off any isp's at the
>moment. One of the main priorties of naan is to get artist in the area
>connected , and get them a platform for collabaration and discussion,
>there's so much going here, it needs a platform, a platform that can be
>accessed by everyone, for the good of everyone. 
>most people think wireless access stops at microwave, that's just what's
>avaiable to us at very low cost, fixed laser access is the way to go,
>but I need to get someone who can build them......
>Okay, radford is not rural, but it's a very poor area, and not everyone
>has the time, expertise, or money to get fixed broadband in this area,
>and that's what it's about. it's about giving access to people at the
>cost that ip networking is supposed to be. The internet in the early
>days was all about self provision, you would pay for your 'ramp' onto
>the internet and people would then carry each other data for each
>other....but then business got involved, and then forgot about the
>community and it's needs. If you think naan is going to replace your
>cable modem, or your adsl line, then think again, I don't want your file
>sharing pirate wares using our bandwidth, however nothing to stop
>someone creating some content, rather than sucking the internet dry for
>free or downloading the newest verion of linux from our naan mirror. ;-)
>If you come to radford with your laptop, you'll be able to access a
>whole load of local resources, business directory, even host your own
>web page with our naan web building software, not to mention the radio
>station, if I can ever get this darn mutlicasting working properly. :-))
>That's not bad to say it's all done at zero cost... and that's the key,
>it's a very linux and open source way of thinking... but for
>We're always after donations, help and support, so any hardware,
>software or advice we'll take it all :-)... even saying hello might be
>enough for now..... 
>'keep it naan....'
>On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 12:18, developr wrote:
>>On Wednesday 12 February 2003 11:42, Alex Tibbles wrote:
>>>any ideas of how
>>>far 802.11b will reach? 
>>The box my Access Point came in says 
>>"... the 802.11b standard (offers) a working range of up to 1800 feet / 550 
>>Remember that "up to" starts at zero.  Practically, there are so many factors 
>>that can influence range (power output of equipment, position of ariel, 
>>interference, walls, weather) that you may get just a few feet.  Ideally 
>>line-of-sight is preferable.
>>>people would only do that if a) it was secure
>>802.11b is IMHO inherently insecure, even with 128 bit encryption.
>>See, for example, www.wirelessdevnet.com/articles/80211security/
>>You have to assume that a wireless network is open.
>>Still, great fun, and lots of potential benefits for a community.
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