[Nottingham] NTL Cache Performance Suggestions

[.waffle]

Layer 2 cowboys??? Well, I'd like to see you do better! The UK is firmly
rooted in the past when it comes to telecoms - the USA only has all the
brilliant new things because they believe e-business is the way forward - it
isn't. Sure, it's fine for one procut, or maybe two, but look at internet
grocery shopping... That's just mad!

.waffle

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee" <nospamlee@astarix.co.uk>
To: <nottingham@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Nottingham] NTL Cache Performance Suggestions


| arn't we all missing the point here?
|
| Okay, they have a download limit, but that's a limit no based in logic.
|
| Bandwidth has an asscoitated cost..
|
| if I transfer 1gb of data with another cable modem user in the same
| 'city' or even same 'street' then this 'cheaper' than travering 18
| transit routers, not owned by ntl, so downloading 1gb from sibera or
| afganistan is more costly for ntl?.. So, why don't they limit the amount
| of traffic that does'nt coms from thier own internal AS subnets, rather
| than a blanket cap. and if your going to argue they don't have that
| kinda of billing data, they do, they keep it by law!!!!!, whether they
| have the skills and the talent to act on it is another matter... ;-)
| you pay peanuts, you get monkies....
|
| yeah, bandwidth..it's a great thing to charge for...if only I could just
| rent fiber cables, and then run whatever bandwidth I wanted over the
| top.....
|
| and what ever happend to ATM...another industry disaster....
|
| when will these layer 2 cowboys finally give into to layer 3 isp?
|
| dunno, guess they have to keep thier subscription to the golf club some
| how. ;-) ho ho ho
|
| Cheers,
| Lee
| www,naan.org.uk
|
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|
| On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 08:32, Robert Davies wrote:
| > On Friday 28 February 2003 07:58, you wrote:
| > > On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Robert Davies wrote:
| > > >On Thursday 27 February 2003 18:38, you wrote:
| >
| > > >Hmmmm yep, this afternoon I managed some 30KB/s uploads.  Now inspite
of
| > > >sending quite a lot of stuff up and down today, I've only actually
| > > >transferred 92.5MB down and 87.6MB up, and it seemed I was
transferrng a
| > > > lot of files and archives.
| > >
| > > How about streamed audio and video? Those being two of the things that
| > > NTL pushes the service with. Listening to a good quality internet
| > > radio feed will eat quite a bit of bandwidth.
| >
| > I did that and only managed to get a pathetic 92.5MB download.  Fact is
most
| > audio stream is going to work reasonably well on only twice telephone
band
| > rate eg) mp3 with VBR averaging 96Kb/s sounds quite good :)
| >
| > Rob
| >
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