[Nottingham] RE: Nottingham Digest, Vol 62, Issue 3

Wed Nov 24 13:44:26 GMT 2004

Re idea for sessions - A beginners guide to Linux would be good.  I might
finally be able to use my computer for something other than the internet!

Regards.

Gordon

>-- Original Message --
>From: nottingham-request at mailman.lug.org.uk
>Subject: Nottingham Digest, Vol 62, Issue 3
>To: nottingham at mailman.lug.org.uk
>Reply-To: nottingham at mailman.lug.org.uk
>Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 12:15:30 +0000
>
>
>Send Nottingham mailing list submissions to
>	nottingham at mailman.lug.org.uk
>
>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>	http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/nottingham
>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>	nottingham-request at mailman.lug.org.uk
>
>You can reach the person managing the list at
>	nottingham-owner at mailman.lug.org.uk
>
>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>than "Re: Contents of Nottingham digest..."
>
>
>Today's Topics:
>
>   1. Re: Next Meeting & CFC & general (Martin)
>   2. Re: Next Meeting & CFC & general (Jon Masters)
>   3. Re: Next Meeting & CFC & general (Jon Masters)
>   4. Disks RAID (Was: Next Meeting & CFC & general) (Martin)
>   5. Re: Next Meeting & CFC & general (Martin)
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Message: 1
>Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:40:14 +0000
>From: Martin <martin at ml1.co.uk>
>Subject: Re: [Nottingham] Next Meeting & CFC & general
>To: nottingham at mailman.lug.org.uk
>Message-ID: <41A3BC4E.9030000 at ml1.co.uk>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
>Martin wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> Time flies and there's much new stuff to try. There's Christmas soon

>[---]
>> Feb 2005 onwards
>>
>> Recent examples of Disaster Recovery on PC systems. What worked and what
>
>> (still) didn't...
>[---]
>
>--- I seem to be on a good run with DR stuff (:-O)
>
>I've recently had two disk crashes on various systems. One disk could be
>
>excused after having been thrashed for 15000 hours. The other newish
>drive died after a windows user accidentally did a drag'n'drop on 90GB

>or so of small files across the same disk. Windows kept clicking away at
>
>it for a few days before the Windows job was killed, the disk then died

>on the next backup (:-((
>
>Only one file lost that I know of. Unfortunately, a good few hours lost

>thoroughly testing the backups (:-((
>
>And I'm at it again!
>
>Juggling disks and "lilo -v -C conf -b boot" is a most marvellous
>incantation. What's more, its amazing how much of linux works when there
>
>is only "/" and the rest of the disk is confused.
>
>Phew! Time for another brew.
>
>(:-P)
>
>
>Meanwhile, it looks like we have critical mass for some good ungodly
>linux debauchery. I'll update the web soon.
>
>Re 'what next' and for the few good comments, thanks. Can we have a
>little more feedback please for future linuxing, good or bad. Open
>source? Its your group.
>
>
>(:-))
>
>Cheers,
>Martin
>
>
>(I was going to use triple-x but though conf and boot were more Godfry

>safe (:-|)
>
>--
>----------------
>Martin Lomas
>martin at ml1.co.uk
>----------------
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 2
>Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 01:08:03 +0000
>From: Jon Masters <jonathan at jonmasters.org>
>Subject: Re: [Nottingham] Next Meeting & CFC & general
>To: nottingham at mailman.lug.org.uk
>Message-ID: <41A3DEF3.1020206 at jonmasters.org>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>Hash: SHA1
>
>Martin wrote:
>
>|  01 Dec - Linux 'Fix-It' Evening
>
>Sounds like some fun, it's unlikely I'll be there but possible.
>
>| The Christmas "Linux Format" mag has just arrived.
>
>I suppose it's ok if you can't get LU&D :P
>
>| Do folk want to meet up for a Christmas nosh?
>
>My own selfish position is that I'll be in Nottingham on the 10th for a
>dinner already so that weekend works, as does most Thu/Fri or weekends
>that you can propose - but it's not very practical to do the 100+ miles
>at 6 or 7pm on a Wednesday evening.
>
>| Jan 2005
>
>| The nuts and bolts of Linux:
>
>I'm happy to contribute to that if I get enough warning of dates.
>
>| Compiling your own customised kernel
>
>Again can help there.
>
>| Linux desktops &
>| How to tweak your desktop
>
>Just did a few pages for an upcoming O'reilly title which covers that -
>can get involved there.
>
>| What would people like to talk about/demonstrate?
>
>I'll have a funky little embedded setup in a few months that'll amuse.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Jon.
>
>P.S. A little bird suggests NotLUG might be LUG of the month in a
>forthcoming Linux User & Developer issue.
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
>Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux)
>Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
>
>iD8DBQFBo97zeTyyexZHHxERAoGDAKCZgEg9V5fw02Ty9cocGrdnpMor4wCfRrHf
>AG6IHfPeUPZm18bC1qtDvv4=
>=NSk4
>-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 01:14:39 +0000
>From: Jon Masters <jonathan at jonmasters.org>
>Subject: Re: [Nottingham] Next Meeting & CFC & general
>To: nottingham at mailman.lug.org.uk
>Message-ID: <41A3E07F.7050603 at jonmasters.org>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>Hash: SHA1
>
>Martin wrote:
>
>| I've recently had two disk crashes on various systems. One disk could
be
>| excused after having been thrashed for 15000 hours. The other newish
>| drive died after a windows user accidentally did a drag'n'drop on 90GB
>| or so of small files across the same disk.
>
>For general interest then, storage is now so cheap that we're sticking
>together another general purpose AMD64 box with 0.5TB usable RAID5 and
>two hotspare swappable disks for well under 1K. It's probably worth a
>talk on RAID and LVM2 at some point.
>
>Jon.
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
>Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux)
>Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
>
>iD8DBQFBo+B/eTyyexZHHxERArUgAJ9kMKDB7Pr3tt7iLSMmuK5+LNsbBQCeNiaP
>vFQNy8FLQBzZEdfbNy9P9ig=
>=+oKI
>-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 01:57:31 +0000
>From: Martin <martin at ml1.co.uk>
>Subject: [Nottingham] Disks RAID (Was: Next Meeting & CFC & general)
>To: nottingham at mailman.lug.org.uk
>Message-ID: <41A3EA8B.2060503 at ml1.co.uk>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
>Jon Masters wrote:
>> Martin wrote:
>>
>> | I've recently had two disk crashes on various systems. One disk could
>be
>[...]
>>
>> For general interest then, storage is now so cheap that we're sticking
>> together another general purpose AMD64 box with 0.5TB usable RAID5 and
>> two hotspare swappable disks for well under 1K. It's probably worth a
>> talk on RAID and LVM2 at some point.
>
>YES!
>
>Also, how robust RAID is for various failures on IDE, SATA, SCSI, USB,

>other...?
>
>(I've had one failing drive on an IDE interface knock out the other
>drive on a second channel(!) on a Promise raid 'controller'... Phah! (:-((
>
>
>Further talk ideas welcomed...
>
>(:-))
>Martin
>
>--
>----------------
>Martin Lomas
>martin at ml1.co.uk
>----------------
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 5
>Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 02:08:43 +0000
>From: Martin <martin at ml1.co.uk>
>Subject: Re: [Nottingham] Next Meeting & CFC & general
>To: nottingham at mailman.lug.org.uk
>Message-ID: <41A3ED2B.1030303 at ml1.co.uk>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
>Jon Masters wrote:
>> Martin wrote:
>>
>> |  01 Dec - Linux 'Fix-It' Evening
>>
>> Sounds like some fun, it's unlikely I'll be there but possible.
>[...]
>>
>> | What would people like to talk about/demonstrate?
>>
>> I'll have a funky little embedded setup in a few months that'll amuse.
>
>Mmmm, especially yes, and yes on all accounts. I'm sure we can juggle
>between all those wanting to enthuse the linux way...
>
>
>
>> P.S. A little bird suggests NotLUG might be LUG of the month in a
>> forthcoming Linux User & Developer issue.
>
>(:-))
>
>Hopefully we'll get a few more outside of the core geeks to wake up (:-P)
>
>
>We have a nosh lined up for on Wed 5/01/2005 to stay consistent (and I'm
>
>voting for Capoci (;-)). Hence, the Christmas nosh could well be at a
>weekend.
>
>Any other enthusiasts for this?
>
>
>Cheers,
>Martin
>
>(Being too geekie and not sleeping yet (:-|)
>
>
>--
>----------------
>Martin Lomas
>martin at ml1.co.uk
>----------------
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>Nottingham mailing list
>Nottingham at mailman.lug.org.uk
>http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/nottingham
>
>
>End of Nottingham Digest, Vol 62, Issue 3
>*****************************************

___________________________________________________________

FREE weekend phone calls! NO monthly fee, NO contract!

http://www.tiscali.co.uk/services/smarttalk/?StartupCode=OL063&srccode=COD_563