[Nottingham] LibreOffice cloud?

Martin martin at ml1.co.uk
Tue Jan 21 00:04:19 UTC 2014

On 20/01/14 23:05, Jason Irwin wrote:
> On 20/01/14 20:56, Martin wrote:
>> Or... Why not just go remote-desktop or VNC in the first place and 
>> offer all the apps that Linux has to offer from a desktop...?
> Many virtual systems will happily stream full desktops over VNC/RDP 
> to clients. Then you have NoMachine 
> https://www.nomachine.com/download And x2go 
> http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php There's also options/hacks so you only 
> stream the content from the one application that you are interested 
> in.
Yae, now that bit sounds interesting for only showing LibreOffice and
not wasting screen estate and bandwidth on a fancy desktop...

Will take a look at x2go, thanks.

> Ages ago I did dick around with freenx (now dead, think x2go replaces
> it) and it was "Ok-ish" but not as slick as RDP/Terminal Server. But
> now that I have a GNU/Linux desktop, laptop, server and the mighty,
> mighty SSH (with screen/tmux) I find I need RDP/VNC less and less.
> Heck, even virt-manager will happily squirt a full desktop to me from
Any pros/cons to RDP vs VNC? Is RDP serving a Windows-only thing? We
seem to be VNC only in the Linux world.

>> This cloudiness does look to be a little cloudy... Meanwhile, 
>> certain commercial companies are 'betting their ranch' on 
>> integrating everything into the cloud to suck their customers in
>> on the updraught...
> The only difference I can see between "the cloud" and 
> mainframes/minis of old are the hardware "the cloud" runs on and 
> (perhaps) slicker tooling for shuttling the work around. All the 
> other problems appear to be about the same. Heck, wasn't X meant to 
> be network transparent? Now it seems that HTML and JQuery want to 
> lift that crown.
Very much so.

For myself with now a very old Linux netbook, "ssh -C" with X-forwarding
has been a very well used tool. Especially so whilst mobile.

Now with these graphics pads thingies and the high expectations from
everyone of going cloudy, trying to get a Windows user to contemplate
"ssh" is like trying to describe the reality of unicorns...

Also, when showing off results, there is just this overall 'expectation'
that a web-browser + cloud is going to be used. The old
tools of sftp, scp, and ssh often cause people to look aghast as though
you might be tickling some dinosaur!...

Hence, a customised OwnCloud is good for doing wonders if only for the
sake of 'image'. And in this latest generation of clickiness, it is
actually easier for some things...


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