[Phpwm] Upgrading PHP Version on server.

Tue Dec 5 10:43:26 GMT 2006

I am about to upgrade the version of PHP on a server and need the advice of 
as many gurus as possible, hence me posting on this list ;)

The company linux server hosts websites for about 60 clients, and I need to 
make the right choice so I don't break anything.

The version at the moment is 4.1.2 (OLD!!) and the link to the phpinfo is:

http://www.cms.istl.com/phpinfo.php

But this is too old for the new framework I am using (codeigniter) as this 
requires a minimum of 4.3 to run.

I am trying to decide on which version is best to upgrade to, ideally it 
would be v5.2, which is the very latest official release, but I am thinking 
that could potentially cause problems with old code? I have no idea exactly 
what php code is on the server, but I do know that there is a complex 
invoice application running.

Would it be safe to upgrade to v4.4.4, which is the latest of the 'fours', 
or would it be wise to make the jump to the 'fives'?

I hold my breath and await your words of wisdom :)

Chris.

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>    1. Java vs.PHP (Zhou Wu)
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>    4. Re: Java vs.PHP (Zeth Green)
>    5. Re: Java vs.PHP (Wayne Morris)
>    6. RE: Java vs.PHP (Phil Beynon)
>    7. RE: Java vs.PHP (Zhou Wu)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 11:53:23 -0800 (PST)
>From: Zhou Wu <zwu_ca at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [Phpwm] Java vs.PHP
>To: phpwm at mailman.lug.org.uk
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><p>
>I think Java and PHP are for different things. I have
>been a Java programmer since 1997. I do coding on my
>job and make a living with it. Recently, I wanted to
>create a website for kids' math, I couldn't find a
>good open source java package for it. I searched on
>the web and found there are many good open source PHP
>packages there that may be good for the purpose.
></P>
>
><p>
>I spent a month (a couple of hours each day) on
>creating <a href="www.mathpotd.org"> www.mathpotd.org
></a> with Drupal. I think Drupal is well suited for
>the job. I don't believe I could do it in Java.
></p>
>
>Java may be just for so-called enterprise applications
>-- companies hire high paid Java programmer for their
>good or bad systems.
>
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>Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:09:27 -0800
>From: "Rayhan Abdulmughnee" <rayhan at hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: [Phpwm] Java vs.PHP
>To: phpwm at mailman.lug.org.uk
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>Nice site you got there.  Very impressive.
>
>rayhan
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><p>
>I think Java and PHP are for different things. I have
>been a Java programmer since 1997. I do coding on my
>job and make a living with it. Recently, I wanted to
>create a website for kids' math, I couldn't find a
>good open source java package for it. I searched on
>the web and found there are many good open source PHP
>packages there that may be good for the purpose.
></P>
>
><p>
>I spent a month (a couple of hours each day) on
>creating <a href="www.mathpotd.org"> www.mathpotd.org
></a> with Drupal. I think Drupal is well suited for
>the job. I don't believe I could do it in Java.
></p>
>
>Java may be just for so-called enterprise applications
>-- companies hire high paid Java programmer for their
>good or bad systems.
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 23:22:44 -0000
>From: "Phil Beynon" <phil at infolinkelectronics.co.uk>
>Subject: RE: [Phpwm] Java vs.PHP
>To: "West Midlands PHP User Group" <phpwm at mailman.lug.org.uk>
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> > <p>
> > I think Java and PHP are for different things. I have
> > been a Java programmer since 1997. I do coding on my
> > job and make a living with it. Recently, I wanted to
> > create a website for kids' math, I couldn't find a
> > good open source java package for it. I searched on
> > the web and found there are many good open source PHP
> > packages there that may be good for the purpose.
> > </P>
> >
> > <p>
> > I spent a month (a couple of hours each day) on
> > creating <a href="www.mathpotd.org"> www.mathpotd.org
> > </a> with Drupal. I think Drupal is well suited for
> > the job. I don't believe I could do it in Java.
> > </p>
> >
> > Java may be just for so-called enterprise applications
> > -- companies hire high paid Java programmer for their
> > good or bad systems.
> >
>
>Its an interesting idea for a site.
>Its running off the page in 1024 x 768 resolution by the way!
>
>Is the logo an alloy wheel off a car by any chance?
>
>Phil
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 23:27:57 +0000
>From: "Zeth Green" <theology at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Phpwm] Java vs.PHP
>To: "West Midlands PHP User Group" <phpwm at mailman.lug.org.uk>
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>Great example of a drupal site. However, for the basic maths
>questions, forcing me to register is a bit dull.
>
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 23:33:31 +0000
>From: Wayne Morris <wayne at machx.co.uk>
>Subject: Re: [Phpwm] Java vs.PHP
>To: West Midlands PHP User Group <phpwm at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>Message-ID: <4574B04B.2030508 at machx.co.uk>
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>Zeth Green wrote:
> > Great example of a drupal site. However, for the basic maths
> > questions, forcing me to register is a bit dull.
> >
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>And leaning towards the paranoid, is it a good idea to record data from
>children without  some transparency and safeguards
>in place - lest someone starts waving fingers?
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>Message: 6
>Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 23:53:23 -0000
>From: "Phil Beynon" <phil at infolinkelectronics.co.uk>
>Subject: RE: [Phpwm] Java vs.PHP
>To: "West Midlands PHP User Group" <phpwm at mailman.lug.org.uk>
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>	<MDBBIMBGKCJEJKIHMENGOEOALMAA.phil at infolinkelectronics.co.uk>
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> > Great example of a drupal site. However, for the basic maths
> > questions, forcing me to register is a bit dull.
> >
>
>Hehe, I noticed that as well.
>
>it seems kinda slow to me, the question takes a while to appear.
>
>How come some of the text questions are displayed as graphics?
>1) they look slightly fuzzy
>2) its an incredibly inefficient way of storing text
>3) it means no one can resize the text font. - partially sighted people
>might want to use the site as well and you just eliminated its usefulness
>for them.
>
>I take it by K1 etc you mean Key stage 1 - but there's no explanation on 
>the
>site.
>
>Why do they need to register, why no visible privacy policy, what stats is
>the site gathering about users??
>
>Why can't anyone contact you without registering??
>Links should have a disclaimer on there with a contact if something leads 
>to
>somewhere inappropriate.
>The 'kids hot books' link gibes no indication where it is going to go to,
>mention Amazon in the text for that.
>
>on teh registration page - which loaded incredibly slowly for me - it has
>little red stars, whihc i take it to signify that fields must be completed,
>a kid may not though.
>Why the heck do thay have to complete a math problem to register, I don't
>have to prove I can read to sign up for Amazon?
>
>Why is the paypal donate value in US dollars?
>
>Phil
>
>
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>Message: 7
>Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 20:26:55 -0800 (PST)
>From: Zhou Wu <zwu_ca at yahoo.com>
>Subject: RE: [Phpwm] Java vs.PHP
>To: West Midlands PHP User Group <phpwm at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>Message-ID: <20061205042655.8507.qmail at web42406.mail.scd.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>
>Thank you very much for the comments. The website was
>just set up (did it in a month). I appreciated your
>opinions very much and hopefully change it in a couple
>of days.
>
>
>
>--- Phil Beynon <phil at infolinkelectronics.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
> > > Great example of a drupal site. However, for the
> > basic maths
> > > questions, forcing me to register is a bit dull.
> > >
> >
> > Hehe, I noticed that as well.
> >
> > it seems kinda slow to me, the question takes a
> > while to appear.
> >
> > How come some of the text questions are displayed as
> > graphics?
> > 1) they look slightly fuzzy
> > 2) its an incredibly inefficient way of storing text
> > 3) it means no one can resize the text font. -
> > partially sighted people
> > might want to use the site as well and you just
> > eliminated its usefulness
> > for them.
> >
> > I take it by K1 etc you mean Key stage 1 - but
> > there's no explanation on the
> > site.
> >
> > Why do they need to register, why no visible privacy
> > policy, what stats is
> > the site gathering about users??
> >
> > Why can't anyone contact you without registering??
> > Links should have a disclaimer on there with a
> > contact if something leads to
> > somewhere inappropriate.
> > The 'kids hot books' link gibes no indication where
> > it is going to go to,
> > mention Amazon in the text for that.
> >
> > on teh registration page - which loaded incredibly
> > slowly for me - it has
> > little red stars, whihc i take it to signify that
> > fields must be completed,
> > a kid may not though.
> > Why the heck do thay have to complete a math problem
> > to register, I don't
> > have to prove I can read to sign up for Amazon?
> >
> > Why is the paypal donate value in US dollars?
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
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>Message: 8
>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 09:42:51 -0000
>From: "Darren Beale" <public.darren.beale at siftware.co.uk>
>Subject: RE: [Phpwm] Java vs.PHP
>To: "'West Midlands PHP User Group'" <phpwm at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>Message-ID: <000001c71851$bbb976a0$1402a8c0 at int.siftware.co.uk>
>Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
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> > How come some of the text questions are displayed as graphics?
> > 1) they look slightly fuzzy
> > 2) its an incredibly inefficient way of storing text
> > 3) it means no one can resize the text font. - partially
> > sighted people might want to use the site as well and you
> > just eliminated its usefulness for them.
>
>*cough*
>
>http://www.infolinkelectronics.co.uk/
>
>Something about glass houses :)
>
>db
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