[Phpwm] Opportunity to teach your PHP knowledge to me

Phil Beynon phil at infolinkelectronics.co.uk
Fri Mar 2 12:02:48 GMT 2007

> >At the end of the day, I'd rather quote for doing the job :) Though I
> >suspect that my company would be far to expensive!
> Depends on whether we're talking a reasonably compensation for the
> training and your hourly rates.  A quick search suggests the average PHP
> course is around £1000.  One on one tuition possibly double that?  Once
> you factor in that the student is receiving an undefined length of
> training (with all due respect to the original poster most of us don't
> know his current PHP level or his ability to learn).  Also, once
> complete, the student would be in possession of a production ready
> website ready to earn them money.  I'd guess a specialist training
> company could easily quote £5000+ for such a task.
> The original poster said they'd been estimated 20 man hours of work, add
> 25% and we'll assume 25 hours in reality.  Even if you knock off £1000
> for a standard PHP training course elsewhere that would make an hourly
> rate of £160.  Now if you're saying you're "far too expensive" for
> someone talking £160/hour I'm curious what your hourly rates are :-)
> Although more seriously, I got the impression that the original poster
> was after something less expensive than those figures.  Which is
> probably why the experienced trainers out there are shying away and why
> Rob thinks he'd be too expensive even just doing the job himself
> (especially if he's budgeting in a third-party training course too).
> The same request on a random web-dev list would probably get snapped up
> quite quickly because there seems to be a lot of people around who don't
> value their time/experience as highly as the more experienced people on
> this list do.
> Then again, I'd echo Phil's suggestion of just knuckling down and trying
> it alone.  At 20 man hours I'd assume the project is within the realm of
> someone with a basic grounding in PHP providing they have a few books
> and a helpful mailing list to help out when they get stuck.  It would
> take a bit longer but it would probably make a good learning exercise in
> itself and the costs would be pretty negligible compared to paying
> someone a fair rate.
> Kevin

If anyone wants to pay me 160/hr I'll definately train them in anything they
want to know about, from PHP to correctly fitting pocketwatch hairsprings,
with a few dozen other topics thrown in along the way! :-)

Realistically though, if it was quoted at 25 hours and Simon works at 10th
of the speed and experienced programmer does, then he can still have it
finished by the end of March :-)
Go for it Simon!


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