[Phpwm] magento

[Gavin Kimpson]

As we talking about eCommerce - chat do you guys think OpenCart?
Seems pretty good to me & it is open source and I just wondered what
you pro's thought of it?

http://www.opencart.com/

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Andy Cowan <andy at w4.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Based on current versions - again, we use it in anger every day.
>
> 1. Performance is more than acceptable - second what Greg says, you need
> a properly set up accelerator, but that's more or less a given these
> days isn't it?
> 2. Yes, there's a lot of XML - but you don't need to get that involved
> most of the time.
> 3. The API is much better now - however, as Greg says, there's no real
> documentation, so getting started is a pain.
> 4. I'm pretty sure there are lot more Magento devs around now than there
> used to be - so many us seem to have come to Magento after being
> frustrated by Zen/OS Commerce/ Uber Cart et al.
> 5. No, disagree - theming is good. Especially in comparison to  Os/Zen.
> It feels like it has designers much more in mind than the alternatives.
>
> Also, I'd point out that users love the admin backend. We've moved
> several over from OS/Zen and they've all been very happy with the
> backend improvements.
>
> So, I suppose to sum up, along with ModX and Symfony, it's one of our
> three weapons of choice these days. Clearly its not perfect, but we get
> sites done quicker, with more functionality and looking better in
> Magento than the alternatives.
>
> A.
>
> On 14/12/2009 21:19, Greg Jones wrote:
>> Hiya,
>>
>> I'm doing Magento development pretty much full-time at the moment and
>> it's pretty good once you get to grips with it.
>>
>> There's an awful lot of abstraction, and there is no developer
>> documentation but it's pretty solid, really flexible in what you can
>> hook into and extend (there's a mechanism for extending any built-in
>> class, and/or you can listen for events that get fired pretty much
>> everywhere - you'll never need to change a 'core' file and be faced
>> with upgrade problems) with a boat-load of useful ecommerce
>> functionality.
>>
>> With APC (and magento setup to use APC as it's cache backend - it's
>> Zend_Cache under the hood) then performance is pretty good - for
>> development, with none of the app caching turned on then things are
>> really, really slow as it's parsing and merging those many XML files
>> every time.
>>
>> Theming difficult? There are a lot of files, every little bit of the
>> page will be it's own template file but the developer-mode tells you
>> which bit of the page is in which file, and it's all very
>> logical...just completely undocumented. There are also plenty of
>> 3rd-party themes out there that even if not exactly what you're after,
>> can provide a useful starting point.
>>
>> It's far, far from perfect, and I spend plenty of time cursing it, but
>> there is plenty that's good about it, and it does seem to be so much
>> better than anything else that's available.
>>
>> Greg.
>>
>> 2009/12/14 David Goodwin<david at codepoets.co.uk>:
>>
>>> j michaelson wrote :
>>>
>>>> My brother in law is making websites with magento and I remember
>>>> hearing some pretty bad things about it at the meal we had at
>>>> wagamamas. What exactly is wrong with magento and are there any
>>>> similar products that do a better job?
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Random summary:
>>>
>>> 1) It's very slow
>>> 2) There are a lot of XML Files involved
>>> 3) The API is not necessarily complete - it appears to offer all the
>>> features you need, but then you may find they aren't completely
>>> implemented
>>> 4) There aren't many people out there who do Magento development
>>> 5) Theming is apparently difficult.
>>>
>>> I looked at Magento about 2-3 years ago; a lot may have chanced since
>>> then... but I've not heard many speak good about it.
>>>
>>> David.
>>> --
>>> David Goodwin
>>>
>>> [ david at codepoets dot co dot uk ]
>>> [ http://www.codepoets.co.uk       ]
>>>
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