[Phpwm] Non-Relational Databases

Alex Mace alex at hollytree.co.uk
Wed Feb 25 13:24:16 UTC 2009

Thanks Elliot,

To be honest I find it difficult to see past the standard RDBMS  
toolset for most projects. I have got one thing I've been working on  
that does data analysis and while the performance is good and I'm  
happy with my DB design, I'm just interested in what, if anything, the  
alternatives could give me for dealing with large (large being a  
relative term!) amounts of data.

Thanks again!


On 25 Feb 2009, at 12:22, <elliot at townx.org> <elliot at townx.org> wrote:

> Hello Alex,
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:25:16 +0000, Alex Mace <alex at hollytree.co.uk>  
> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> Has anyone played around with any of the non-relational databases  
>> that
>> seem to be getting a bit trendy? I'm thinking of things like Apache
>> CouchDB, Amazon SimpleDB, Google BigTable (part of the App Engine I
>> believe?).
> Not any of the "trendy" ones, but I do work everyday with the Talis
> Platform, a big old RDF store:
> http://www.talis.com/platform/index.shtml
> We use it as the back-end for our library catalogue software:
> http://talis.com/prism/.
> I have to say working with these things is a lot more cumbersome than
> RDBMSs: there are fewer decent object to "freaky database" mapping  
> layers,
> barring things like Jena for Java. There is ARC for RDF for PHP,  
> probably
> similar stuff for CouchDB (I know there's a Ruby library for that  
> one). But
> the old fashioned RDBMS just has much better, standardised tool  
> support.
> Unless you really think you can't do it with a RDBMS, I'd say adding  
> exotic
> stuff to your app. will probably slow you down.
> Elliot
>> I've only ever worked with or been taught about relational
>> databases and I'm wondering what, if any, benefits these could give
>> me. I've got an inkling that they're useful for storing and querying
>> large amounts of arbitary data. Perhaps something thats useful for
>> data mining?
>> Thoughts?
>> Alex
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