[Phpwm] PHP roles at Neteffekt

Wed Jul 8 07:32:21 UTC 2009

Dave,
Thanks for the response. I appreciate your feedback and will make sure
that you are not receiving any details/being contacted by other agents
here.

I apologise if you feel that I have been pushy that was not my
intention. That said most of my business over the last 10 years has come
from organisations that didnt want to use agencies initially. I just
wanted to put myself in a position if for whatever reason your own
methods fail.

If anyone has any questions for me then im on 0121 6075858.

Karl.

	-----Original Message-----
	From: Dave Holmes [mailto:dave at neteffekt.co.uk] 
	Sent: 08 July 2009 08:12
	To: Lightfoot, Karl; West Midlands PHP User Group
	Subject: Re: PHP roles at Neteffekt

	Firstly I have posted this to the PHPWM group as well as I would
be interested if the other members are experiencing the same hassle -
the list is a professional / social  network for like minded
professionals not a tool for recruitment agencies that said relevant job
postings are welcome and valuable to a proportion of the list......
HOWEVER

	Karl, 

	Why have you bothered responding  this - which part of "i don't
want to wast your time or my time" is ambiguous. And I thought the
phrase "we do not under any circumstances use recruitment agencies" was
precise and straight to the point. 

	I don't mind the fact that you used the PHPWM list to identify
potential companies to place your clients and I certainly don't mind you
contacting us about it - I do however object to pushy salesmen who will
not take a polite no for an answer. 

	You have contacted our reception by phone for our representative
to politely said no thank you having confirmed directly with me first.
Following this you emailed me direct, again I don't mind the persistence
as it only takes a moment to respond to the enquiry.

	You then try and engage me in a conversation about recruitment
processes and how to go about it but I think we are smart enough to
think of plan b,c,d,e... if plan a fails. Then to top all of this off I
get an automated data audit email from your oracle system to tell me I'm
on your systems and these are your data protections rules and
regulations - great so I'm now going to get harassed by all the other
agents at computer futures. 

	1. Please try to understand - as I can not make it any plainer
than my original response

	Karl, 

	Thanks but placing a call would be a waste of both your time and
my time, we do not under any circumstances use recruitment agencies. 

	Dave

	2. Remove any reference to me or my company from your
recruitment database

	Dave 

	Lightfoot, Karl wrote: 

		Dave,

		Thanks for the quick response- I know that Adi generally
uses adverts- what would happen if that doesnt work?

		Regards,
		Karl.

			-----Original Message-----
			From: Dave Holmes [mailto:dave at neteffekt.co.uk] 
			Sent: 07 July 2009 12:38
			To: Lightfoot, Karl
			Subject: Re: PHP roles at Neteffekt

			Karl, 

			Thanks but placing a call would be a waste of
both you time and my time, we do not under any circumstances use
recruitment agencies. 

			Dave

			Lightfoot, Karl wrote: 

				Computer Futures
<http://www.computerfutures.com>  
				Dear Dave,

				I hope you are well. 

				For the last 9 years, I have specialised
in recruiting Internet staff in the Midlands region. In this time I have
placed over 300 staff and have the best track record in this patch. 

				The reason for the contact is that as
part of my recent work, I am now a member of the PHP West Midlands forum
that Dave Goodwin runs. Looking down the list of members looks like my
placement list as I have worked and placed with many of them in the
past. 

				I was interested to reintroduce myself
to you and given my track record, I hope that we can work together in
the future. 

				As most of my clients make decisions as
to which agency to use based on the quality of their candidates, I have
included examples to give you an idea of my capabilities. 

				I shall put a call in soon but if you
have any questions please do not hesitate to call me on 0121 6075858.

				With regards

				Karl Lightfoot

				Computer Futures
				6th Floor
				Phoenix House
				1-3 Newhall Street
				Birmingham
				United Kingdom
				B3 3NH

				Phone 0121 607 5858
				email k.lightfoot at computerfutures.com

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