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mileage may of course vary, but I found it very bloated, and the varying
quality is really a problem within the main codebase, not just within
extensions. That may have changed in the 2 years since the last time I
played with it, however.

Zend Framework though - agreed. I prefer CakePHP, but since I'm now writing
"enterprise" software, I've found that clients like the magic buzzword
approach of ZF.

On 2 February 2010 13:38, Ian Munday <ian.munday at illumen.co.uk> wrote:

> After years of maintaining an in-house framework, I moved our important
> applications to the Zend Framework last year.  Pretty much all that had b=
een
> built into our in-house framework could be replaced with Zend Framework
> equivalents, the result being that we got a more robust and better tested
> base from which to build our applications.  I can't see why people (in sm=
all
> to medium enterprises at least) would persist with maintaining in-house
> frameworks in the medium / long term given the quality of those that are
> already available and the ROI you can gain by using them.
>
>        http://framework.zend.com/
>
> Having said all that, I've found Joomla to be very capable and able to
> accommodate virtually all our website needs over the last couple of years=
.
>  (Note I say websites rather than web applications.)
>
>        http://www.joomla.org/
>
> Joomla might not have the same level of visual polish in the back-end
> interface that Wordpress has, but ultimately I think it is more capable. =
 It
> also uses templates and has a large number of extensions available, albei=
t
> of varying quality.  Or you can write your own (although the how-to isn't
> brilliantly documented).  Some of the best examples of templates and
> extensions that can be used with Joomla are at the YOOtheme site:
>
>        http://www.yootheme.com/
>        http://tools.yootheme.com/
>
> Regards,
>
> Ian
>
>
> On 2 Feb 2010, at 12:03, Pete Graham wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Wordpress can be very useful for some sites although it does have it's
> > limitations. It has many useful plugins, I particularly like the
> > Flutter Custom Content Types plugin http://flutter.freshout.us/ (which
> > is similar to CCK in Drupal). I used it to build this site
> > http://www.outsider.tv
> >
> > I'd recommend CakePHP for more complex sites, I've been using it
> > recently and have been very impressed with it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Pete
> >
> > On 2 February 2010 11:53, Stephen Orr <steve at stephenorr.co.uk> wrote:
> >> I've found that Wordpress is a pretty good base for most websites. Yea=
h,
> >> it's not as powerful as a full framework, since you're not writing it
> from
> >> the ground up - but it's a pretty damned effective content management
> system
> >> as well as a blog, once you understand what you can do in relation to
> >> categories and tags etc. I've used it for that in the past, and I've
> wished
> >> on other projects where I built a bespoke system that I _had_ used
> Wordpress
> >> after all.
> >>
> >> A full framework will definitely be something to learn for the future,
> but
> >> for just a "website" then probably over-the-top.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> On 2 February 2010 11:50, Mo Awkati <mawkati at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> =91Web design=92 is a very big field to handle entirely with Wordpre=
ss.
> >>>
> >>>> If your building a relatively static website then no Wordpress is no=
t
> the
> >>>> way to go. HTML, CSS, JS and a bit of PHP for any dynamic elements
> will be a
> >>>> lot easier. You=92ll need to know >these to build Wordpress template=
s
> too but
> >>>> having Wordpress in the way complicates it.
> >>>
> >>>> If your building a CMS controlled site with a relatively static
> structure
> >>>> across the site then yes wordpress is good.
> >>>
> >>>> If you want a Blog then wordpress is great.
> >>>
> >>>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>
> >>> Hi Mike
> >>>
> >>> My future endeavours will most certainly be dynamic websites, more us=
er
> >>> interactive and includes all sorts of media. However, my Vicar ( I do
> our
> >>> church website) quite likes the idea of a blog, that is what prompted
> my
> >>> question; certainly will use WordPress for the blog.
> >>>
> >>> Mo
>
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