[Phpwm] too much M$ bashing

Alex Mace alex at hollytree.co.uk
Fri Mar 6 12:42:29 UTC 2009


Indeed, having a PHP binary that works better on Windows is good. It  
was only fairly recently that the Windows binaries stopped being built  
with Visual C++ 6 - which is no longer available, even as part of MSDN  
due to some lawsuit or other. There have been parts of PHP that are  
Windows only for a little while, like the COM and .NET stuff.

Have Microsoft got a history? Yes, but from what people in the know  
have been saying they are genuinely trying to make it easier to run  
PHP on Windows, not to create their own IronPHP or PHP#. Only time  
will tell what happens.

I'd be more worried about the current glacial pace of development of  
PHP itself.

Alex

On 6 Mar 2009, at 12:36, BinaryKitten wrote:

> From what I gather, rather than hijacking PHP they are more interested
> in making a php binary that will work the best it can on the Windows
> Platform. From our (the developers) side this should mean that PHP  
> will
> work better than before on the windows platform. That being said, it
> doesn't stop some of the "improvements" to the PHP Binary being
> transposed into the other platform versions.
>
> I apologise if I missed the point, I only got J 's mail in the thread
> and replied to that.
>
> Kat
>
> Andy Cowan wrote:
>> You seem to misunderstand the point I'm making - I want PHP to  
>> continue to be usable *cross platform* - i.e. I can deploy on  
>> whatever server OS I choose for a project - Windows, Linux, or OS  
>> X, whatever suits the project and the client. I don't want to be  
>> forced to to write code that is specific to a particular vendor's  
>> flavour of PHP and then be stuck with their server platform.
>>
>> The thread is about M$ making it more difficult for us to keep a  
>> choice of platforms, not bashing M$ for developing a rubbish web  
>> server. I for one am concerned that they are trying to hijack PHP  
>> to try and force me to buy their servers.
>>
>> And while we're at it, without trying to start a religious war, the  
>> goalposts in our space (i.e. web servers, scripting languages, web  
>> databases, server operating systems) weren't set by M$ or Apple.  
>> They were set by BSDi, FreeBSD and later Linux. Apache, PHP and  
>> MySQL. M$ were late to the party, and when they arrived, they only  
>> brought cheap lager when everyone else had brought champagne.  
>> They're catching up now, which is good - as long as they don't end  
>> up dictating how we write code and where we can deploy it.
>>
>> A.
>
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