[Phpwm] trainings

Mike Tipping mike at etuna.co.uk
Tue Sep 7 12:50:53 UTC 2010 

And once you have you Zend certification you can get out of Wolverhampton
and work somewhere nice ;o)


On 07/09/2010 12:58, "Andy Cowan" <andy at w4.co.uk> wrote:

> Like you weren't expecting it right from the first line :-)
> 
> A.
> 
> 
> On 7 September 2010 12:38, Carl Sutton <dogmatic69 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> i like how the last line is sneaked in...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Jonathan Taylor
>> <JonathanT at bigredrecruitment.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>  
>>> As a recruiter for the IT sector I have had met my fair share of candidates
>>> ­ most of which, it would seem, have been promised some sort of training by
>>> their companies in the past. Generally speaking it is not uncommon for
>>> training to be provided but seemingly this is not always the case. In my
>>> experience, instances where some training is offered then not delivered, can
>>> often result in candidates seeking new employment.
>>>  
>>> Most of my clients would all look for some ŒZend¹ or ŒZend Framework¹
>>> qualification as an indication of competence of PHP development. It may also
>>> be the case that if the hire can be made without the qualification the
>>> subsequent training will be provided so that a unified standard can be
>>> achieved across the team.   
>>>  
>>> For instance a client I have worked with for many years, based in
>>> Wolverhampton, who has continually impressed by making Zend and Zend
>>> Framework certification available to new and existing members of their
>>> production team. To top this they also provide funding for members of staff
>>> to pursue both undergraduate and postgraduate studies.
>>>  
>>> The client in question is currently looking for a web based application
>>> developer. If this sounds like an opportunity for you then feel free to get
>>> in touch. 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Jonathan Taylor
>>> Big Red Recruitment Ltd.
>>> Tel: 0844 576 4985
>>> Fax: 0844 576 4985
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>>> WWW: www.bigredrecruitment.co.uk <http://www.bigredrecruitment.co.uk>
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>>> 
>>> From: phpwm-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk
>>> [mailto:phpwm-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Mike Tipping
>>> Sent: 06 September 2010 12:32
>>> To: West Midlands PHP User Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Phpwm] trainings
>>>  
>>> Have you come up with a specific piece of Œtraining¹ and asked for it? Every
>>> company I¹ve worked for has been happy to send me on courses (even coughing
>>> up over £1000/year for OU studies) however I¹ve has to chase down the
>>> courses and sell my bosses the benefits of them.
>>> 
>>> The main problem with training is deciding what you need that can give back
>>> to the company rather than just qualify your for your next job.
>>> 
>>> I got brainwashed by ŒInvestors in People¹ a few years ago (another course I
>>> went on :0) ), which (though in most companies is just a badge to hang on
>>> the wall) makes a lot of sense when it comes to training. Basically you
>>> write a 5 year plan of where you want your company to be and what you want
>>> it to be doing, look at the skills you have to deliver that and the skills
>>> you need and build a training plan AND BUDGET around that.
>>> 
>>> And training can be books, conferences and free R&D time as much as going on
>>> collage courses, infact conferences are the best training I¹ve had.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> On 06/09/2010 11:41, "Simon Emms" <simon at simonemms.com
>>> <http://simon@simonemms.com> > wrote:
>>> Same experience here, but I do have a couple of friends who¹ve worked for
>>> companies that have been put through Zend Certification.
>>>  
>>> S
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: phpwm-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk
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>>> [mailto:phpwm-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Carl Sutton
>>> Sent: 06 September 2010 11:35
>>> To: West Midlands PHP User Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Phpwm] trainings
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 11:33 AM, <nerijus at discountdomainsuk.com
>>> <http://nerijus@discountdomainsuk.com> > wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Does your companies provide any trainings for their developers, and if yes
>>> - in what way? Or I'm asking too much from my boss? :/
>>> 
>>> Nerijus
>>> 
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>>> I've worked for lots of companies that promised this before starting, but
>>> never actually had one that followed through.
>>> 
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