[Phpwm] Broadband recomendations

Lester Caine lester at lsces.co.uk
Thu Jul 28 16:03:06 UTC 2011

Andy Cowan wrote:
> We for example don't use BT for a customer if there is any alternative
> becuase OpenReach are impossible to deal with, don't communicate with
> anyone and in our experience, just outright lie when it suits them.

That is the point we are making ...

First problem, speed on the cable to the exchange. It will be some time before I 
get the chance of fibre unless I lay out a LOT of money - so my main servers are 
remote in a datacentre on a direct pipe - not even in this country :) It's more 

If the line to the exchange is CAPPED at 2Mb then that is what you should be 
charged for? Not 8Mb rates which ALL the alternate providers quoted me.

My own exchange has nothing other then BT at the exchange, and many of us are 
still in that situation, so we are restricted by what is available to get OUT to 
third party levels anyway? I do not believe that there is even fibre into the 
exchange, so when lots of people are streaming video the data rate drops 
noticeably! Who ever is providing the other end ...

The main point here is that not all exchanges are equal and while SKY can 
provide a service in areas where they have their own infrastructure, once they 
are outside that area prices change (upwards), and we ARE still at the whim of 
BT/Openreach :( - Virgin don't even bother to quote around here ...

Even the mobile internet options are just as crap around here. Vodaphone charge 
me for 3G for 2 years on the promise that it 'was coming' - it's still not 
available nearly 2 years later still. The only way to get highish speed mobile 
broadband is via other peoples BT hubs - but none of the ones around here have 
that option enabled! ( Including mine ;) ) But at least in an emergency I can 
pop 5 miles down the road and use my laptop :)

I don't mind paying a reasonable amount for a service, but it has to be on the 
basis that the person I am paying is PROVIDING the service! Not subbing the 
important parts of it out to a third party?

Lester Caine - G8HFL
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