[Phpwm] Broadband recomendations

Mike Tipping mike at etuna.co.uk
Thu Jul 28 16:19:01 UTC 2011

Making suppliers charge for what the bit of copper between your house and
the exchange can sustain wouldn't work. From their point of view the
equipment in the exchange can handle 8Mb/s so that's what they charge for.

The thing I object to is when the feature I need (a fixed IP address) is
only available on the pro 24Mb/s account so I have to pay for that despite
the exchange only being rated at 8Mb/s

On 28/07/2011 17:00, "Lester Caine" <lester at lsces.co.uk> wrote:

>Andy Cowan wrote:
>> We for example don't use BT for a customer if there is any alternative
>> becuase OpenReach are impossible to deal with, don't communicate with
>> anyone and in our experience, just outright lie when it suits them.
>That is the point we are making ...
>First problem, speed on the cable to the exchange. It will be some time
>before I 
>get the chance of fibre unless I lay out a LOT of money - so my main
>servers are 
>remote in a datacentre on a direct pipe - not even in this country :)
>It's more 
>If the line to the exchange is CAPPED at 2Mb then that is what you should
>charged for? Not 8Mb rates which ALL the alternate providers quoted me.
>My own exchange has nothing other then BT at the exchange, and many of us
>still in that situation, so we are restricted by what is available to get
>OUT to 
>third party levels anyway? I do not believe that there is even fibre into
>exchange, so when lots of people are streaming video the data rate drops
>noticeably! Who ever is providing the other end ...
>The main point here is that not all exchanges are equal and while SKY can
>provide a service in areas where they have their own infrastructure, once
>are outside that area prices change (upwards), and we ARE still at the
>whim of 
>BT/Openreach :( - Virgin don't even bother to quote around here ...
>Even the mobile internet options are just as crap around here. Vodaphone
>me for 3G for 2 years on the promise that it 'was coming' - it's still
>available nearly 2 years later still. The only way to get highish speed
>broadband is via other peoples BT hubs - but none of the ones around here
>that option enabled! ( Including mine ;) ) But at least in an emergency I
>pop 5 miles down the road and use my laptop :)
>I don't mind paying a reasonable amount for a service, but it has to be
>on the 
>basis that the person I am paying is PROVIDING the service! Not subbing
>important parts of it out to a third party?
>Lester Caine - G8HFL
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