[sclug] Ipod

Fri Dec 22 12:43:23 UTC 2006

Hi,

I have a (now looking quite "retro") Mac formatted iPod and have been  
using it fine for about two years. There is support for HFS (the  
filesystem used on the mac ipod) in the 2.6 kernel. IIRC it wasn't  
too much pain to get working at all.
For what it is worth, I used to use GTKpod for managing playlists etc  
before making the desktop switch to Apple. It was fast, stable and  
simple to use.

-L

On 21 Dec 2006, at 22:33, Neil Haughton wrote:

> I read a year ago that  you have to be careful to get a 'Windows'  
> Ipod, not a 'Mac' model. The difference is the filesystem that it  
> is preformatted with. FAT is okay, whereas (I read) the Mac one is  
> a bit of a pig if you are connecting to it from Linux. Not sure if  
> this is still relevant with the Nano and other recent models though.
>
> Neil
>
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>>    1. Re: using iPod nano with Linux PC? (alan c)
>>    2. Re: using iPod nano with Linux PC? (ed)
>>    3. Re: using iPod nano with Linux PC? (Robin Lewis)
>>    4. Re: using iPod nano with Linux PC? (John Stumbles)
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>> Subject:
>> Re: [sclug] using iPod nano with Linux PC?
>> From:
>> alan c <aeclist at candt.waitrose.com>
>> Date:
>> Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:41:20 +0000
>> To:
>> John Stumbles <john at stumbles.org.uk>
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>> To:
>> John Stumbles <john at stumbles.org.uk>
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>> sclug <sclug at sclug.org.uk>
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>> John Stumbles wrote:
>>> Son & heir covets an ipod nano but we're pretty much a Redmond- 
>>> free zone here so what are the options? Google 'ipod nano linux'  
>>> turns up lots of install ipod-linux links: this sounds cool but  
>>> does it work? I'd hate to shell out on one and find it makes a  
>>> rather lightweight doorstop :-|
>>>
>>> Are there ways of driving an unmodded ipod from a linux PC?
>>
>>
>> I have a ipod video (30gb) and although I used it very initially  
>> on a doze machine, to sync immediately with wifes stuff, I then  
>> plugged into kubuntu with amarok and I think rhythmbox. Both  
>> seemed pretty good and basically worked in a sophisticated way,  
>> but I did not have time to follow it all up yet.
>>
>> I will need to know both doze itunes and linux apps various. From  
>> my limited experience with itunes it is a very well integrated  
>> app, no doubt. Amarok and rhythmbox  look excellent but they are  
>> not equivalent to itunes in all respects. IPOD is easy to use  
>> though without doze. I had believed that the initial setting up  
>> (format?) of purchased ipod was hard without doze, but I think  
>> they are now shipped already formatted (?).
>>
>> Initial itunes use for cd ripping produced .mp4 files which them  
>> needed conversion to mp3 to play (other) players.
>> I did not really enjoy the itunes complexity - they make it easy  
>> they think, but as with doze, hidden functions and smart stuff can  
>> cause confusion. It did in our house. I prefer the amarok/ 
>> rhythmbox approaches - more visible I think. I need to do more  
>> research yet though.
>>
>> Good luck
>>
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>> Subject:
>> Re: [sclug] using iPod nano with Linux PC?
>> From:
>> ed <ed at s5h.net>
>> Date:
>> Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:10:48 +0000
>> To:
>> sclug at sclug.org.uk
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>> To:
>> sclug at sclug.org.uk
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>>
>> On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:36:21 +0000
>> John Stumbles <john at stumbles.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Son & heir covets an ipod nano but we're pretty much a Redmond-free
>>> zone here so what are the options? Google 'ipod nano linux' turns up
>>> lots of install ipod-linux links: this sounds cool but does it work?
>>> I'd hate to shell out on one and find it makes a rather lightweight
>>> doorstop :-|
>>>
>>> Are there ways of driving an unmodded ipod from a linux PC?
>>>
>>
>> i thought i had a brick to begin with, so i tried for ages to get it
>> and qemu to work with the usb... this was a fruitless endeavour.
>>
>> using gtkpod here, works great.
>>
>> ipods are great gadgets
>>
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>> Subject:
>> Re: [sclug] using iPod nano with Linux PC?
>> From:
>> Robin Lewis <goten at squad-wars.com>
>> Date:
>> Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:08:12 +0000
>> To:
>> ed <ed at s5h.net>
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>> To:
>> ed <ed at s5h.net>
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>> sclug at sclug.org.uk
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>> ed wrote:
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>>> On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:36:21 +0000 John Stumbles
>>> <john at stumbles.org.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Son & heir covets an ipod nano but we're pretty much a
>>>> Redmond-free zone here so what are the options? Google 'ipod nano
>>>> linux' turns up lots of install ipod-linux links: this sounds
>>>> cool but does it work? I'd hate to shell out on one and find it
>>>> makes a rather lightweight doorstop :-|
>>>>
>>>> Are there ways of driving an unmodded ipod from a linux PC?
>>>>
>>> i thought i had a brick to begin with, so i tried for ages to get
>>> it and qemu to work with the usb... this was a fruitless endeavour.
>>>
>>>
>>> using gtkpod here, works great.
>>>
>>> ipods are great gadgets
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ...but does it run Linux? :P
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>> Subject:
>> Re: [sclug] using iPod nano with Linux PC?
>> From:
>> John Stumbles <john at stumbles.org.uk>
>> Date:
>> Wed, 20 Dec 2006 23:35:31 +0000
>>
>> CC:
>> sclug at sclug.org.uk
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>>
>> Robin Lewis wrote:
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>>>> ipods are great gadgets
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ...but does it run Linux? :P
>>
>> Seems they can do, but I think he wants it to listen to not to  
>> hack for the sake of it (maybe that'll come in time :-)
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