[sclug] OT: Social question
Tom Carbert-Allen
tom at randominter.net
Sun May 31 11:54:42 UTC 2009
Personally I joined my local theatre group to compliment by other
entirely un-emotional interests, as my elder brothers all seemed to get
so much (girlfriends) from the arts I thought it could work for me. At
school I avoided other people and was glued to a computer screen in
every break every year I was there so socialising wasn't my speciality.
At first it was very difficult because it was obvious I wasn't
comfortable there, and although many years of enjoying Monty Python had
given me a good sense of humour to use in the improvisation exercises
etc, I was shocked at how hard I found it to talk to the people in the
breaks because they didn't view things in the analytical way a scientist
does. I also had what the other people in the group thought was an
"un-healthy" interest in learning about the electronic equipment they
had in the venue when I should have been chasing the girls. I decided to
arrive before the group to learn about the equipment and forced myself
to be less rigid and talk to all of them in the breaks (even the ones I
viewed as idiots at the time) and this very quickly changed my entire
personality, I no longer avoided non-academic conversation and could
talk to anyone from any walk of life (now they can't shut me up) This
ultimately lead to a string of girlfriends over the years I attended and
an emotional understanding which now seems more important to me than any
of my academic skills, even at work when I find dealing with peoples
ego's a harder job than deciding which is the best technical solution to
propose. This lead to me getting married 3 years ago and I couldn't be
happier (although I do still sometimes oddly think about how I could
have made much more scientific achievement if I was alone in a lab every
night....)
Emotional intelligence should be a mandatory component for everyone
studying scientific disciplines I think. We seem to let some of our
highest achievers leave university without all the skills they need to
have a full life (eg, non-scientific hobbies, emotional awareness, small
talk skills). This is a real shame for them because they are missing out
on a valuable part of the human experience and it's a shame for all of
us because the general population get a negative impression of the whole
scientific community and label us as geeks in a bad way.
I know this is controversial, but in some ways, there is a positive
reason the cool kids pick on the geek at school. Not because he is good
at science, but because he isn't good with his emotions and ultimately
this is something he too will regret later in life if not corrected.
TCA
alan c wrote:
> ed wrote:
>
>
> Odd yes, but there is a profound edge which resonates for me.
>
> I suspect it is a factor related to technical or scientific work and
> training which generally seeks to encourage thinking processes to the
> detriment of feeling (emotional) processes. And it is likely to be
> more relevant in the areas of most intense logical thought and work,
> which I guess might include IT.
>
> In the 70's as a thirty something, successful professional with a
> couple of degrees and a diploma to my credit, I found that my
> relationships (marriage) and emotional life were in trouble. Sorting
> it out was painful, although ultimately it was clear to me that I had
> ignored, or maybe never been aware of - simply put - feelings. Apart
> from missing out on a lot of real life, it had been too easy to make
> some wrong decisions.
>
> I benefited from some various courses and counselling, some in
> fringe-like activities and found my feet in what seemed to be the real
> world.
>
> One consequence was that I began to find I had much more in common
> with more people than before because what I might describe as the
> emotional dimension was widely shared by others. Thinking or
> intellectual side of things was no problem for me, it was the the
> emotional existence with all its unpredictable technicolour richness
> that was a surprise.
>
> I believe Descartes got it wrong. It is not I think therefore I am. It
> is I feel therefore I am. Maybe that is what he meant but it got lost
> in translation?
>
> I later met someone new, in fact a social worker, and I am glad to say
> the relationship is rewarding and endures.
>
> hth
>
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