[Sderby] RE: C lessons

[mike]

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I was expecting to do a C course and then follow on with the C++ one,=0D
I would like to use one of the C/C++ programs with Linux SuSE 8.2 ,=0D
and there seems to be a lot of docs on the SuSE disc ,and the C/C++ =0D
program ,But I am not sure which is the best one to go for maybe we =0D
could all use the same version and do some of the lessons at home =0D
and use a website as a base, like Andre  suggests .=0D
Would there be a copyright problem using the linux C/C++ program =0D
and the documentation ??.=0D
Regards Mike =0D
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From: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk=0D
Date: 25 April 2003 13:24:50=0D
To: sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk=0D
Subject: Re: [Sderby] RE: C lessons=0D
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* andre.hefer@avhservices.co.uk (andre.hefer@avhservices.co.uk) wrote:=0D
> David=0D
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> I am definitely interested in the re-written C lessons. Is it possible
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> we could place this on the Wiki and edit the lectures interactively?=0D
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If I'm understanding Dave C's copyright problem with the lectures,=0D
then probably no - this is just as bad as putting them on the=0D
website. Dave C will have to answer this though - afterall they would=0D
be there in their original form for a very short space of time...=0D
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Dave C may also want to look at the modified documents before release,=0D
just to ok them (i.e. that enough has been changed).=0D
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I'd actually like for the lectures to be put on the website proper,=0D
where HTML documents can be properly cross-linked. This would allow=0D
for the lectures to be written in something like DocBook format, where=0D
different formats are output from the same source, allowing HTML, PDF,=0D
PS etc, without having to edit multiple files.=0D
Of course, it may be possible to write a Wiki backend for DocBook, but=0D
I don't fancy trying it unless I absolutely *have* to :)=0D
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> Now that we have the the hub and the broadband connection in Moira, we
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> do the C lessons on our own laptops and download the sample code direct=
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> off the website. I always find that I learn quicker when I have the
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> to execute the code as well.=0D
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Yes, this is perfectly possible. However, I don't have a laptop, and=0D
can't bring a Linux machine to the meetings (it runs my web and email,=0D
plus is the primary DNS for my domain, so I can't unplug it).=0D
I'm more than happy to hover behind people when they want help with=0D
it, though.=0D
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Just out of interest, what are people expecting to get out of a C=0D
course? It'd help if I knew where we were going with this, before=0D
starting out, then we don't end up with a series of C lectures which=0D
are essentially not what people want.=0D
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Cheers,=0D
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Dave.=0D
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> Andre=0D
> ----- Original Message -----=0D
> From: "David Jolley" <dave@lucien.cx>=0D
> To: <sderby@mailman.lug.org.uk>=0D
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 12:12 PM=0D
> Subject: Re: [Sderby] RE: C lessons=0D
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> > * David Coulson (Dave@coulsn.freeserve.co.uk) wrote:=0D
> > > Thanks for the comments Mike, but I don't have the time to re-write
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> > > notes. The code used is a mixture from different sources including =
my=0D
> > > own. However there is nothing to stop members of the group trying o=
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> > > the code and then substituting their own in the notes. I'd be happy=
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> > > comment on the standard of coding, in order to ensure ANSI standard=
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> > > relevance to C++ extension.=0D
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> > I stopped myself saying this earlier, but as DaveC has now said he=0D
> > doesn't have time to do the notes, and keep them up to scratch, I'll=0D
> > offer my time into this, if there's the demand (which there seems to=0D
> > be a bit of).=0D
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> > If there is general consensus, I will work on the notes, replacing=0D
> > all the code (where practical - sometimes the way it's done in the=0D
> > examples is *the* way it's done, so there's no scope for changing the=
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> > C Code underneath). I've already writen example answers to the=0D
> > exercises if people are interested.=0D
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> > Cheers,=0D
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> > Dave.=0D
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