[Sussex] Network problem

Geoff Teale Geoff.Teale at claybrook.co.uk
Wed Feb 26 09:41:02 UTC 2003


Andrew wrote:
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> That's one of my main tools, it just great!  It has an Tight 
> executable
> file, works on the main OS (Still no real support for Mac 
> (which is strange
> as Mac X really is an Unix)).  


Yes, but the GUI layer is completely different to anyone elses and
completely proprietary.  To paraphrase Frank Zappa - that OS isn't free as
it applies to you and me.

>Using VNC has given us the 
> ability to remote
> view CCTV systems we use.
> 
> The problem with VNC is I don't want anyone but for me to know the
> passwords.  VNC isn't the best solution in all applications.  
> It falls down
> if using on NT 4 system as doesn't run before password entry. 
>  Mainly down
> to NT 4 way of working.  Which our main servers are.  As such 
> we use an KVM
> for in viewing and operating them.


Erm, I don't think that's true.   At thomson we used VNC a lot (machine room
was at ground level, we were on the 4th floor) and it was a (depressingly)
regular task to bounce the NT4 severs running SQL Server and Exchange via
VNC, upon reboot you could refresh the browser window and get a VNC session
to do the first login - only thing was you had to use the original VNC
password for the system (rather than the current one) for that first log-in.


I don't know how this was set-up, Larissa was the NT girl, she knew the
registry like the back of her hand (and she _still_ thougt it sucked).
 
> Which brings me on to another issue with Microsoft I don't 
> see any need to
> get Windows 2000/2003 Server when NT is serving our needs 
> fine.  If we where
> going to update the servers I would probably go for some 
> Linux, mainly due
> to insane costs from Micro$oft.   We have some people who do 
> very serious
> work using Windows 95, but I don't see point in getting my 
> licences for them
> so they can have Windows 2000.  It works and works fine.  
>  
> Now I could spend the money and upgrade but just can not for 
> my life see any
> point in do that and that not because I wouldn't be able to 
> get the money to
> do it.  I just think its just an waste of time.

Yup, but they don't make money if you don't buy new operating systems.. they
_have_ to force you forward.  If they based their revenue of service and
support this wouldn't necessarily be the case - but when your only
profitable areas are OEM OS sales and MS Office box shifting you have to
force the issue.

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