[Sussex] Ubuntu install

PHILIP COLLINGS philcollings60 at hotmail.com
Sun Nov 28 13:27:21 UTC 2010



> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 06:14:10 +0000
> From: steve at dobbo.org
> To: sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk; philcollings60 at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Sussex] Ubuntu install
> 
> Hi Phil
> 
> On 27/11/10 22:39, Desmond Armstrong wrote:
> > On 27/11/10 21:09, PHILIP COLLINGS wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >> I am trying to install ubuntu 10.10 on to a tower that I have built.
> >
> >> The cpu is running at 1400 but will go higher, 2.5 gb ram.200gb hdd.
> >> I have been trying to install with live disks which do work on another
> >> comp I've got. The unit freezes from just after the dos front pages of
> >> the comp to the boot menu of the disks, or anywhere in between.
> 
> You haven't told us which motherboard and CPU you are using.  The speed 
> of the CPU is not really all that important for installation debugging, 
> whether it is an AMD64 or a IA32 processor is much more useful (as is 
> the motherboard make and model).
> 
> Given that you have built a tower I am going to assume that you went 
> down the AMD64 route, they are common and cheep these days so there is 
> really no reason not to (I assume that there are still IA32 motherboards 
> on the market - I haven't checked).
> 
> I don't have a universal knowledge of all motherboards but the AMD64 
> motherboards I have played with to date have their memory split into two 
> banks, and you get best system performance if you balance the memory 
> sticks between both banks.  If the memory sockets on your motherboard 
> are in two colours then I would suggest that it is very likely that this 
> is the case here.
> 
> 2.5GB of memory is a really odd amount for a AMD64 system.  Assuming 
> that you have 2 x 1GB plus 1 x 0.5GB memory sticks I would give serious 
> thought to pulling the 0.5GB unit.
> 
> >> I have as yet to get a full install. the furthest I've got once, was
> >> the keyboard and time zone settings
> >> Has any body got any ideas, as I'm beginning to run out of things to try.
> >
> > The first thing I would check is the CD drive as, if it is worn, this is
> > the sort of problem one gets. So try another CD or DVD drive first.
> >
> > But have you had the live CD running properly?
> 
> Desmond is right.  You can get some funny errors on failing CD-ROM 
> drivers.  But the problem may be more fundamental, it maybe that your 
> motherboard (which I assume you've just purchased) may have hardware not 
> supported by the kernel on the CD-ROM.
> 
> How up to date is your Ubuntu CD?  I don't mean when did you download 
> it, I mean when did Canonical master it?  Which kernel/driver set is on 
> that CD and does it support all the hardware on your motherboard?  I 
> recently installed Debian on a friend's not to old laptop (AMD64) and 
> found that there was an issue with the screen/frame-buffer driver in the 
> kernel itself.  In this case it was a bug introduced into the kernel 
> itself, and old version worked fine.  You might like to try the previous 
> version of Ubuntu.  (Note: AMD64 fully supports IA32 so you can try the 
> old 32-bit software on a newer 64-bit processor, it just doesn't run as 
> fast.)
> 
> If you're not having any luck with Ubuntu then have you thought of 
> trying another distro.  I'm not suggesting that you switch permanently, 
> but trying a different install CD with a different kernel/driver set may 
> work and at least it will prove that your hardware is working properly.
> 
> Debian, for example, have just entered the final stages of testing for 
> the 6.0 "squeeze" release.  This includes proper support at last for a 
> USB stick network installer. (http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst)  As 
> Ubuntu is Debian based this should give you something close to what 
> you're use to with Ubuntu.
> 
> Steve


>>>hi steve, thanks for the info. i have not just bought the mobo, its one my sister was using for her work that i built for her a while ago.>The mobo is a Asrock K7s8x, runs with a north bridge  sis 746fx chipset. fsb 333mhz. supports AMD athlon xp socket A cpu`s.     >The ram is ddr266 at 2x1gb and 1x.5 gb.>the disks are from linux format mag and ones that ive downloaded. > last night i finally managed to get ubuntu 9.10 installed to hdd after trying other os`s like mint ,fedora and puppy. > after all these probs it think its to do with a hardware prob not the os`s.> i replaced the cpu that was in it as it was a duron one that my sister used to a 3000 athlon xp, this i think is the prob.>I will keep playing around till i get it.> Thanks to you and Desmond for the tips. i will keep you posted how i get on.>>regards phil. 		 	   		  
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