[Sussex] What planet are they on ?

Dave davidpipe at tiscali.co.uk
Tue Oct 25 21:51:00 UTC 2011


> On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 21:05:07 +0100 John The Fatbloke<johnsemailaccount at gmail.com>  writ
> Subject: Re: [Sussex] What planet are they on ?
> To: Sussex LUG<sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>
>
> I hadn't but when I did, yes it showed the Windows fonts, but it also
> co-incided with the font rendering becoming unstable i.e. in FireFox, the
> page headers would show fine, but text within a page wouldn't show at all.
> Also in the limited hope that the update that went through might be causing
> the issue, I logged out and back in, but it got worse and just rendered the
> text below the desktop icons as a series of boxes....
>
> So at the moment, I'm using the former Windows user fallback/cure all and
> running a reinstall, though this time its the ode version (I can almost hear
> Steve groaning from here:-D  ) oh and its the 32 bit version as well, as
> that's historically (for me) proven more reliable and less hassle.....
>
> Perhaps after about 8 years of various Linux use, I should know how to sort
> problems like this, but alas I can't get out of the "dont care how it works,
> just want it to work" mentality......
>
> Hey Ho!
>
Not sure what else you've got on your machine.  I'm running LM 10 & have 
874 paid for ttfs on board.  Am running Firefox 7.01 & have no problems 
with fonts.

However are you sure that this is not a problem to do with the latest 
Ubuntu & Unity?

Dave P
> On 24 Oct 2011 17:15, "Dave Pipe"<davidpipe at tiscali.co.uk>  wrote:
>
>> >  On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:16:39 +0000johnsemailaccount at gmail.**com<0000johnsemailaccount at gmail.com>  writ
>>> >>  Subject: [Sussex] What planet are they on ?
>>> >>  To: SLUG mailing list<sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk**>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>  Wotcha List,
>>> >>
>>> >>  Damn I must be going mad eh ? 2 posts to the list in less than a
>>> >>  month.......
>>> >>
>>> >>  So here I am, trying to fine tune a few things with this new, all singing,
>>> >>  all dancing version of Ubuntu ie 11.10 (I forget what idiot name they've
>>> >>  given it.....)
>>> >>
>>> >>  All I'm trying to do, is to install the windows fonts (and yes, I do have
>>> >>  a
>>> >>  licence and install on a different partition). So, rather than bother you
>>> >>  good people, I just google it.
>>> >>
>>> >>  Which is fine as there seem to be some rather nice, helpful instructions,
>>> >>  great! The advice followed and yes, it seems that I've managed to install
>>> >>  the fonts, but when opening an application that might have some listing of
>>> >>  fonts to choose from (like firefox), there's no sign of them.
>>> >>
>>> >>  Ok, so I hit google again, as there seems to be no way of changing any of
>>> >>  the system fonts etc and google gives me a different place to look, which
>>> >>  I
>>> >>  find and try to follow.
>>> >>
>>> >>  The instructions say about installing a package called something like
>>> >>  gnome
>>> >>  tweeks, so that's ok, I can manage something as basic as that. Job done.
>>> >>
>>> >>  Obviously not, as it doesn't matter whether I just log out and back in or
>>> >>  do a full restart, there's no sign of how to open this facility (nothing
>>> >>  in
>>> >>  the menu etc), so Ok, next step is to
>>> >>
>>> >>  look in the "Ubuntu software centre", and all I can find is "Gnome desktop
>>> >>  environment with added components".
>>> >>
>>> >>  It's all well and good being able to install all sorts of packages but
>>> >>  absolutely no good if there's no obvious way of running said packages.
>>> >>
>>> >>  It does seem a bit weird, as I've done this a number of times before, more
>>> >>  often than not, just clicking a few facilities and bingo, fonts installed
>>> >>  and available. Yet with this latest version of Ubuntu, they seem to have
>>> >>  left out or removed some of the things like this, that we "non-techie"
>>> >>  types rely on.
>>> >>
>>> >>  I mean, what good is it them producing newer versions of things if they
>>> >>  leave out some of those kind of facilities ? Are they still aiming the
>>> >>  *buntu's at people in the hope that they'll change from another OS ? or
>>> >>  are
>>> >>  have they given up on increasing market share, and just aiming it at
>>> >>  techie
>>> >>  types who can do all of the more basic things blindfolded ?
>>> >>
>>> >>  "They" seem to make these kind of changes, apparently making things
>>> >>  easier,
>>> >>  but seemingly only from their own point of view - which IMO is a complete
>>> >>  waste of time, as non-techie types don't understand or know how to do
>>> >>  stuff
>>> >>  from their point of view do they ! Hell, there's not even an option to
>>> >>  view
>>> >>  or change fonts in either the "Accessories" or "System tools". How is the
>>> >>  less technically adept person gonna work out how to do stuff.
>>> >>
>>> >>  Even the bits of advice and guidance that google kicks up seems to be
>>> >>  written from a semi-tech approach. That seems to leave stuff out
>>> >>  as "they'll know how to do that".....
>>> >>
>>> >>  Right, sorry if that sounds a bit like a rant, well it is, but it's not
>>> >>  supposed to. Just me venting a bit of frustration about something that
>>> >>  should be reasonably straight forward, that "they" have made hard work!
>>> >>
>>> >>  Keep up your excellent posts, as they do make excellent reading, even if I
>>> >>  don't follow exactly what it is that you may be trying to do. Like
>>> >>  "British
>>> >>  Rail", I'll get there, eventually.
>>> >>
>>> >>  regards
>>> >>
>>> >>  John D.
>>> >>
>> >  Have you tried opening a terminal&  typing:
>> >  sudo fc-cache -fv


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