[SWLUG] Re Quietist Meeting Ever
swlug at nermal.org
Wed Mar 29 12:38:19 UTC 2006
> Hi folks,
> Although previously intending to, I didn't go to the Swansea meeting
> last night partly because I had gone to a meeting in Cardiff the other
> day and taking a 4 hours out to drive 50 odd miles (both ways) and
> drink beer in a smokey pub once a week is enough for me. I rarely drink
> alcohol anyway and quit smoking years ago.
Only one of the lug members smokes as far as I know. The pub has a no
smoking section and on nice days we sit outside anyway.
> When I questioned meeting places the other day one respondant claimed
> he/she 'saved' £20 by drinking/eating at Wetherspoons rather than a
> locally owned pub. That's probably an exaggeration but does testify to
> the fact that SWLUG meetings must be expensive affairs if you are to
> keep face and consume at a level comparable with fellow attendees.
More than £20 vs Less than £10 does not equal a saving of 20 quid. It
could be 12 quid or so. I imagine that's also taking into account the
train to Swansea and back from Cardiff which is around £6 - £7 as the
lug member in question walks to the Cardiff ones.
I know at least one lug member who never drinks. I find 'keeping face'
is helped by not making incorrect assumptions about the way a group of
people act who you don't know rather than the amount you drink. People
at the lug really don't care whether people drink or not - they tend to
spot condescending idiots far quicker.
> Another reason I was reluctant to go (apart from distance, expense, and
> pressure to over-consume) is my concern that it may largely consist of a
> spell of subtle oneupmanship where competing members attempt to
> establish their alpha geek status by cramming in as many unregognisable
> acronyms as possible into each sentence ... and so on. Yawn. (This is my
> slightly paranoid imagination based on previous interactions with
> computer 'experts', not directly associated with Linux or SWLUG - so
> don't rush to defend yourself or I'll assume your guilty.)
How about you actually attend a meeting before making these rather heavy
(and incorrect) assumptions?
Be aware these kind of emails probably give people preconceptions about
you before you arrive (trust me on this one ;) ) which could make your
reception a little different than a random person who's not emailed the
list before. I for one will probably offer you a pint just so you cheer
the hell up ;)
You're more like to see a lot more "unrecognisable acronyms" (props
there for misspelling unrecognisable but spelling acronyms correctly) in
a computer room (as you suggested below) than a pub. Personally I work
around computers all day in an office for my day job - so the last thing
I want is to spend my evenings in a computer room as well.
> I don't imagine dates or 'rotas' are core problems with attendance. I
> suppose I'd be much more inclined and motivated to attend if it didn't
> revolve around eating, drinking and 2nd hand smoking. A meeting in a
> computer lab where we can all demonstrate and learn new things about
> various Linux distros would be ace. Then those who want to eat and drink
> could make their way to the pub after.
Eating and drinking are very sociable things to do and is a nice way to
talk to someone. If you don't eat out very often I recommend giving it
a try - it's a nice distraction to have some food / a drink to break eye
contact if you're nervous talking to other people.
> This is just my opinion (and I am quite content to be a minority of
> one). But I would be interested in hearing other views on 1) why they
> didn't go last night and 2) what w o u l d get them out.
1) I didn't go to the Swansea one (and haven't been for a while) due to
me changing jobs and working in the middle of nowhere. The person I may
have been able to get a lift with last night (a lug member himself) was
otherwise engaged and couldn't make it.
2) I go to the Cardiff ones. See you there.
PS. How the hell do you pronounce your name - I want to get some
practice in for when I meet you.
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