[Wiltshire] OT: Tolerance vs. PC [Was: Meeting place]
andrew at anvil.org
Mon Apr 28 12:02:19 BST 2008
David Fletcher wrote:
> When I suggested a couple of years back that we move to O'Neill's, it
> was because it was one of the few places to have the novel idea of
> offering a no smoking area in a pub.
> Remember the dark old days when
> people were allowed to smoke inside pubs? Yuk.
Are you suggesting this as a topic for debate ? Or are you assuming that
assembled company inevitably agree with you and that nobody here sees
the extreme nature of the swing described by this ban as being inspired
more by political correctness than evidence or public desire.
Mind you, the way things are going with the pub trade, there won't be a
choice to make before long. Demonised smokers are voting with their
feet. Cost conscious drinkers are buying up their favourite loss leaders
at Tescburies. Cheap big screen TVs are enabling sports fans to have
"Match Days" at their houses with that almost free booze and decent
smokers provisions rather than going to the pub, standing in the rain,
missing that goal and paying a fortune for the beer.
It might have helped if they had allowed publicans (et al) to apply for
smoking licenses for specific areas with suitable access, atmospheric
separation and ventilation; but then that assumes the law was passed on
public health grounds, rather than Nanny State Dogma.
The very sad part of all this was reflected in a survey I remember
reading about before the ban came in. Smokers and non-smokers were
separately asked which of the following they would prefer.
1 - No ban at all
2 - A general ban with controlled exceptions (as above)
3 - Total ban
Smokers virtually all went for 2) but a large number of the non-smokers
went for 3) .. overall 2) was the winning, but within the non-smokers,
the majority went for 3)
So smokers were happy with a balanced compromise and actively wanted
non-smokers to have areas free from smoke in which to socialise. The
majority of non-smokers, on the other hand, actively wanted smokers to
have nowhere to go. Seems like the non-smokers will get their wish, but
not quite in the way they thought. When a pub closes it's doors, it
closes to both smokers and non-smokers.
How about a little give and take. A bit of good old British tolerance.
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