Just did a quick google and found this: http://www.ccc.de:8080/Library/HPA/Boxing/beige/beige2.html It looks like a way of intercepting calls. how l33t. Matt -----Original Message----- I'd never heard of beige boxing untill this thread (and me an ex-BT man and all :-( security wasn't my department I hasten to add). Are the calls you make free, or are you just getting it charge to someone elses bill? chris