[Wolves] I'm back!

[Chris Owen]

Just plain ordinary theft then?  The victim either being a corporation,
in which case we all pay through our bills or insurance premiums, or
some poor bill payer like you or me.

Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: Re-LoaD's LUG Mail [mailto:lug@networks.homeip.net]=20
Sent: 05 August 2003 12:17
To: wolves@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Wolves] I'm back!

that about sums it up

well put Chris.


----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Chris Procter" <Chris@foxonline.co.uk>
To: <wolves@mailman.lug.org.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:16 PM
Subject: RE: [Wolves] I'm back!



I've always had a lot of respect for people who devise blue boxing
techniques of subverting the signalling sytems to explore the phone
system
(Captin Crunch and his whistle being the most famous example) and I can
well
understand the thrill of investigating how the largest (and most
complicated) network on the planet actually works (actually most
telecoms
people I have met would admit a sneaky respect for phreakers who find
these
techniques, which isn't to say they wouldn't cheer when they are caught
and
sent down). But beige boxing seems to be simply getting someone else to
pay
for your phone call by attaching your phone to their wires, neither
clever
nor informative, just a script kiddie thing.

Or would Mr Thomas like to correct me?

chris



-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Warwick [mailto:aozc15@dsl.pipex.com]
Sent: 05 August 2003 11:37
To: wolves@mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: RE: [Wolves] I'm back!


Just did a quick google and found this:

http://www.ccc.de:8080/Library/HPA/Boxing/beige/beige2.html

It looks like a way of intercepting calls.

how l33t.

Matt

-----Original Message-----
I'd never heard of beige boxing untill this thread (and me an ex-BT man
and all :-( security wasn't my department I hasten to add). Are the
calls you make free, or are you just getting it charge to someone elses
bill?

chris



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