[Wolves] *nix packaging; was RPM

[Jono Bacon]

Heya,

Fsck me there is a lot of mail on this list. :)

My view is that APT *is* a better packaging system for
the pure reason that the Debian packagers do such a
good job. The actual raw format of APT vs RPM, I don't
know about, but after many years toiling with RPM
machines, APT is perfect.

As for using Debian, only use Stable on machines that
should not break. As an example, we use Stable on
Angel and it is rock solid. It is crap that it is
unsuitable for critical machines as security updates
are made available very soon after an exploit has been
made available. As for Mozilla nd KDE no tbeing in
Debian, they were the last time I checked. This is not
due to any Stallman non-free rubbish - both are
completely free and comply with the Debian Free
Software Guidelines.

If you want more recent packages, use backports that
are available at apt-get.org or use testing/unstable
and expect something to mess up occasionally. Saying
that, I have been on testing for two years and not had
a problem. I personally use backports of KDE,
Firebird, MPlayer and some other bits. I have a rather
fat sources.list too.

Debian is cool. Use it. :)

  Jono

--- Aquarius <aquarius-lists at kryogenix.org> wrote:
> fizzy spoo'd forth:
> > --- Aquarius <aquarius-lists at kryogenix.org> wrote:
>  
> >> Both of those things are in the official archive.
> >> Someone also happens to package up more
> > bleeding-edge
> >> versions of them and store them in another
> aptable 
> >> archive somewhere else.
> > 
> > OK, so how do I check which version I'm using so I
> can
> > remove the spurious sources.list entry? This may
> help
> > with issues mailed about last night...
> 
> apt-cache show mozilla will show the details about
> mozilla,
> which should give you a version number...
>  
> > Good stuff. Are there any issues I should know
> about
> > before moving to sid? Is it /really/ 'unstable' or
> > just new and unproven?
> 
> I've been running unstable now for over a year
> without 
> a problem. It's useful to drop into #debian before
> you
> do an apt-get upgrade; if you shouldn't upgrade
> unstable
> at the moment the topic will tell you so in big
> letters.
> This is very rare, but very occasionally someone
> like
> the PAM maintainer will upload a new version to
> unstable
> which stops you logging in or something. I reiterate
> that
> this is very rare (about twice in two years) but it
> doesn't
> hurt to check. Then again, I never check and it's
> never
> caused me a problem. :)
> 
> Aq.
> 
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Jono Bacon - http://www.jonobacon.org/
Professional Writer / Web Developer / Musician

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