[Wolves] Badly in need of a forum?

Tue May 17 22:26:43 BST 2005

Hi all
apart from the number of emails recieved that I haven't a clue as to what
the problem is let alone any understanding of the answer, there is no readily
accessible history using a mailing list in place of a forum.
As i recently joined the mailing list to find out what was going on my conclusion
was that the wolveslug was missing a forum, judging by the content and number
of the daily emails, which are predominantly of the problem aired problem
solved type rather than informative news of future events.
Just an observation really.

Mad Malc

>-- Original Message --
>Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 21:41:22 +0100
>From: alex yan <yongnet at gmail.com>
>To: Wolverhampton Linux User Group <wolves at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>Subject: Re: [Wolves] Badly in need of a forum?
>Reply-To: Wolverhampton Linux User Group <wolves at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>
>
>If the email's space limitation is the main problem for keeping all mailing
>
>list emails, give me an email, I will send a Gmail's invitation to you.
>
>I would be willing to help you guys to sort this problem out.
>
>Feiyong
>
>
>
>
>On 5/17/05, Deusiah <deusiah at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Your main thing against them seems to be their size? You can turn post
>> editing off, threads are displayed in an email client but not half as
>> nicely that's a matter of preference though. I have a large enough
>> account only I was speaking in general terms, you can't expect
>> everyone to have a large enough account. Using Google as a search
>> engine for threads is not as good as using a forum search engine for
>> one it's not up to date with the latest posts.
>> 
>> Forums are accessible in my opinion, If I think they are I simply have
>> a different option. Not everyone share's your views. If you don't
>> agree with something I say, fair enough. Explain it better and present
>> me with further information on why you feel that way. I'll look at
>> your views and take them into consideration.
>> 
>> As for the push pull argument I don't think that's a strong point. You
>> open your email client as opposed to opening your web browser? I
>> wouldn't say the latter was harder.
>> 
>> Perhaps you should take a look at punBB, that's a forum coded properly
>> with a neat CSS layout and very small pages sizes.
>> 
>> I belive forums are full of "such crap advice" because they are more
>> accessible. Forums seem far more popular than mailing lists, surely
>> accessibilty must play a key role here.
>> 
>> Please remember I don't hate mailing lists, I'm not opposed to them in
>> the slightest I'm simply considering reasons to use an alternative I'm
>> more familiar with.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> On 5/17/05, Steve Parkes <sparkes at westmids.biz> wrote:
>> > Deusiah wrote:
>> >
>> > >You know just 30 minutes ago I was thinking what is the point of
>> > >mailing lists? I'm guessing they were around before forums or
>> > >something?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > mailing lists predate the web full stop
>> >
>> > >With forums you can edit your posts, have all the threads displayed
>in
>> > >a nice legible format. It doesn't take up any space in your email
>> > >account and you have a permanent reachable record for anything that's
>> > >been discussed. Fair enough you can look through the archives but I
>> > >don't think they are so accessible as a forum.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > editing posts can be abused,
>> > threads are displayed in any email client worth it's salt
>> > get a larger email account
>> > get a larger email account / mailman records every message and google
>> > archives it
>> >
>> > forums are not accessible, if you think they are you have a different
>> > meaning of the word accessible see
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_accessibility
>> >
>> > >Perhaps I'm missing something out? I don't know much about mailing
>> > >lists and this is the first one I have ever joined.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > yup you are missing out. This arguement is as old as the first forum
>> > and before that it was newsgroup v/s listserv
>> >
>> > as a quick example the archive for May (gzipped) is currently 137k and
>> > this page http://forums.lugradio.org/viewtopic.php?t=840&highlight=
on
>> > the lugradio forum is more than half of that bearing in mind my browser
>> > accepts gzipped content and ignoring all the little shitty images and
>> > concentrating on the badly coded html best estimate is four forum pages
>> > for all of this months email.
>> >
>> > I want the list pushed to me I don't expect to pull it (not counting
>I
>> > pull from my mailserver ;-) ) you can't expect anyone worth their salt
>> > to go looking at forums to answer your questions which is why they are
>> > full of such crap advice.
>> >
>> > >Chris
>> > >
>> > sparkes - a forum hater
>> >
>> >
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