[Wolves] Badly in need of a forum?
mad-malc at tiscali.co.uk
mad-malc at tiscali.co.uk
Tue May 17 22:31:09 BST 2005
No there size is not my point here, my point is the neeedless repetition
of each message as if you send out an email and get 6 replies to which being
polite you then reply you have needlessly filled every other lug members
email in box with repetitive drivel. With a froum you get one thread this
way with a mailing list you many threads on the same subject to no ones benefit.
Mad Malc
>-- Original Message --
>Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 21:14:50 +0100
>From: Deusiah <deusiah at gmail.com>
>To: Wolverhampton Linux User Group <wolves at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>Subject: Re: [Wolves] Badly in need of a forum?
>Reply-To: Wolverhampton Linux User Group <wolves at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>
>
>Your main thing against them seems to be their size? You can turn post
>editing off, threads are displayed in an email client but not half as
>nicely that's a matter of preference though. I have a large enough
>account only I was speaking in general terms, you can't expect
>everyone to have a large enough account. Using Google as a search
>engine for threads is not as good as using a forum search engine for
>one it's not up to date with the latest posts.
>
>Forums are accessible in my opinion, If I think they are I simply have
>a different option. Not everyone share's your views. If you don't
>agree with something I say, fair enough. Explain it better and present
>me with further information on why you feel that way. I'll look at
>your views and take them into consideration.
>
>As for the push pull argument I don't think that's a strong point. You
>open your email client as opposed to opening your web browser? I
>wouldn't say the latter was harder.
>
>Perhaps you should take a look at punBB, that's a forum coded properly
>with a neat CSS layout and very small pages sizes.
>
>I belive forums are full of "such crap advice" because they are more
>accessible. Forums seem far more popular than mailing lists, surely
>accessibilty must play a key role here.
>
>Please remember I don't hate mailing lists, I'm not opposed to them in
>the slightest I'm simply considering reasons to use an alternative I'm
>more familiar with.
>
>Chris
>
>On 5/17/05, Steve Parkes <sparkes at westmids.biz> wrote:
>> Deusiah wrote:
>>
>> >You know just 30 minutes ago I was thinking what is the point of
>> >mailing lists? I'm guessing they were around before forums or
>> >something?
>> >
>> >
>> mailing lists predate the web full stop
>>
>> >With forums you can edit your posts, have all the threads displayed in
>> >a nice legible format. It doesn't take up any space in your email
>> >account and you have a permanent reachable record for anything that's
>> >been discussed. Fair enough you can look through the archives but I
>> >don't think they are so accessible as a forum.
>> >
>> >
>> editing posts can be abused,
>> threads are displayed in any email client worth it's salt
>> get a larger email account
>> get a larger email account / mailman records every message and google
>> archives it
>>
>> forums are not accessible, if you think they are you have a different
>> meaning of the word accessible see
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_accessibility
>>
>> >Perhaps I'm missing something out? I don't know much about mailing
>> >lists and this is the first one I have ever joined.
>> >
>> >
>> yup you are missing out. This arguement is as old as the first forum
>> and before that it was newsgroup v/s listserv
>>
>> as a quick example the archive for May (gzipped) is currently 137k and
>> this page http://forums.lugradio.org/viewtopic.php?t=840&highlight= on
>> the lugradio forum is more than half of that bearing in mind my browser
>> accepts gzipped content and ignoring all the little shitty images and
>> concentrating on the badly coded html best estimate is four forum pages
>> for all of this months email.
>>
>> I want the list pushed to me I don't expect to pull it (not counting I
>> pull from my mailserver ;-) ) you can't expect anyone worth their salt
>> to go looking at forums to answer your questions which is why they are
>> full of such crap advice.
>>
>> >Chris
>> >
>> sparkes - a forum hater
>>
>>
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