[Wolves] Scumbags Hack Xoops site

[Dick Turpin]

On Thursday 20 October 2005 17:49, Steve Parkes wrote:

> Seriously all the *nuke php cms' are total pants under the covers with
> the majority of code written by 14 year old kids :-)  I have been saying
> this for years and years they suck.

Go on then I'm interested, bearing in mind I'm years behind with this sort of 
thing and I know you've been round the block a few times. I understand that 
its not to the purist-website-creators taste, IMHO thats because it makes Web 
site creators redundant or at least cuts the plethora down a bit.

From my limited exposure I think they are great! if you don't know how to 
create, manage and expand you're website then they are the beast for you.

For those that don't know its about management so don't get side tracked in 
respect of Web Site although thats what its doing. You see I'd rather upload 
a module (I'e component) with a simple browse here, click on upload now click 
on install -- Hooray theres my shiny new feature, rather than ftp over write 
or ftp the whole site down Ponce around to get it to work and look OK, ftp 
the whole thing back again.

I'm not saying its the best but its good for me and many others when you 
consider the crap sites out there, by crap I mean content and presentation 
"Heres me walking my dog", "My Chair" for gods sake get a life.

But that dosen't address why you think they are crap is it because, as you 
say, the code is written by 14 year old's? I remember being berated a year or 
so ago for making a similar comment about people turning out applications in 
their bedroom whats the difference?

This'll kill any talk/demo I was gonna give but I'd still like to know you're 
thoughts.

> If you need proof look at lists such as bugtraq and in particular at
> what the teams behind them say when expliots are discovered.  Half the
> time they don't even have an offical response.

But hang on thats the same for all software Linux, Open Source, Microsoft etc 
etc there ain't anyone gonna admit their baby has a problem, I've seen 
numerous "We cannot replicate you're problem" messages across all platforms 
and applications so its not just a CMS thing.

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Regards
Dick Turpin
highwayman.turpin at gmail.com
"Stand and Deliver"