[Wolves] Please Don't......
stephenwelch at hotmail.com
Mon Aug 20 21:18:58 BST 2007
Hi Suntish, I would like to thank you for your post.
Playing devils rules advocate.
When we join do we get a click here to accept the rules of posting?
I could not find any posting rules on the wolves lug.
Can the mail manager not be setup to transmit "you are about to cause a
whole lot of trouble please contact the mail manager to request that this
message be sent?
>From: Suntish Narain <suntish_narain at suntish-narain.co.uk>
>Reply-To: Wolverhampton Linux User Group <wolves at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>To: Wolverhampton Linux User Group <wolves at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>Subject: RE: [Wolves] Please Don't......
>Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:44:11 +0000
>It has never been in my intention to upset anyone in the WLUG, by attaching
>that file. I was only thinking that it might help those who don't know
>about GPG and security, to understand it better. But i guess i have created
>an issue in doing that, which i am really sorry! No more attachments.
>I apologise for all this. If you get into trouble, just tell them you got
>it from me.
> > Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:54:23 +0100
> > From: drinky76 at yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: [Wolves] Please Don't......
> > To: wolves at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > --- Alastair Battrick <al at aj8.org> wrote:
> > > Dave Morley wrote:
> > > > This is just a general reminder to please not post
> > > links to content that
> > > > is not free to view. It can come back to haunt us
> > > through the lovely
> > > > archiving system. If content is a tutorial on a
> > > free website that is
> > > > fine. But if content is not under a free to view
> > > licensing like CC or
> > > > GPL etc then Please Don't Do It.
> > >
> > > Why?
> > There are 2 issues here.
> > The first is that this PDF contains a copyright notice
> > which states that the contents may not be reproduced
> > or transmitted by any means including electronic,
> > without the permission of the copyright owner and
> > publisher.
> > In short it's illegal. No Starch Press make many of
> > their books available for download as PDF, but not for
> > free. I doubt they'd take kindly to us passing them
> > around. It should also be noted that we all now have a
> > copy of this PDF on our PCs, unless you deleted it (be
> > sure your mail client hasn't cached it).
> > I'd hate to see them use some kind of DRM to protect
> > their PDFs. I wouldn't like to explain to No Starch
> > Press' lawyers how I got their copyrighted material
> > either.
> > The second, as Andy illustrated (being the sysadmin of
> > the box that this list runs on), is that posting
> > attachments means that the server has to deliver that
> > attachment to all of the list members, including
> > retries and bounces. Which, as he points out, created
> > a 650MB spike in bandwidth usage, which none of us
> > have paid for, but somebody has to. This is why
> > Suntish posted it twice. The load on the server caused
> > by the first one slowed the system down for every
> > mailing list on the box (which is pretty much every
> > LUG in the UK) and meant that it wasn't delivered
> > promptly for anyone.
> > In fairness, I'm pretty sure that Suntish had no idea
> > that he would cause a problem.
> > So, to summarise:
> > 1) Don't post attachments to the list.
> > 2) Don't post copyrighted material to the list.
> > Please :)
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