[Wolves] Ubuntu 9,10 install (Melville Thomson)
Duke Kordus
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Mon Dec 14 20:56:24 UTC 2009
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> 1. Re: Save MySQL from Oracle (Alex Willmer)
> 2. Re: Save MySQL from Oracle (Peter Cannon)
> 3. Re: Save MySQL from Oracle (Chris Ellis)
> 4. Re: Save MySQL from Oracle (Peter Cannon)
> 5. Re: Ubuntu 9.10 install (Mo Awkati)
> 6. Re: Ubuntu 9.10 install (Mo Awkati)
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> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:57:15 +0000
> From: Alex Willmer <alex at moreati.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Wolves] Save MySQL from Oracle
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> 2009/12/14 Andy Jewell <Andy.Jewell at sysmicro.co.uk>:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Bear in mind that Monty has said he wants the EU to mandate that MySQL be re-released under a BSD or Apache-Style license; what he wants to do, is effectively claw MySQl back from being free software. Don't let him fool you.
>
> Indeed, MySQL is and has always been under the GPL. Anybody is free to
> fork it, if Oracle sink their fangs in.
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> Even so, I really can't raise th energy to care. I'd quite like it if
> MySQL faded into irrelevancy, because PostgreSQL would replace it and
> that would be a Good Thing.
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> Alex
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> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:03:29 +0000
> From: Peter Cannon <dick_turpin at archlinux.us>
> Subject: Re: [Wolves] Save MySQL from Oracle
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> Alex Willmer wrote:
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>>because PostgreSQL would replace it and
>> that would be a Good Thing.
>
> Postgres is the spawn of Satan don't listen to Alex he's been sectioned
> before for saying stuff like this.
>
> As people have said Oracle can buy it and they will probably make some
> sort of propriety version but at the end of the day its GPL'd so all
> that can be done is forks made the source will be around for use forever
> and ever amen.
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> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:55:16 +0000
> From: "Chris Ellis" <chris.ellis.intrbiz at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wolves] Save MySQL from Oracle
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> Peter Cannon wrote:
> Alex Willmer wrote:
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>>because PostgreSQL would replace it and
>
>> that would be a Good Thing.
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>
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> ____
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> Postgres is the spawn of Satan don't listen to Alex he's been sectioned
>
> before for saying stuff like this.
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>
>
> ____
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> I agree with alex, pgsql is far superior and can actually compete at the same level as Oracle. ?I see no need for MySQL within Oracle, it cannot come close to matching Oracle and Oracle XE covers Oracles lowend customers.
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> ____
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> As people have said Oracle can buy it and they will probably make some
>
> sort of propriety version but at the end of the day its GPL'd so all
>
> that can be done is forks made the source will be around for use forever
>
> and ever amen.
>
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> ____
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> There are already 2 forks of MySQL for the sun era, why the hell do we want another! Especially under differing licence terms.
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> From: Peter Cannon <dick_turpin at archlinux.us>
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> Chris Ellis wrote:
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>> There are already 2 forks of MySQL for the sun era, why the hell do we
>> want another! Especially under differing licence terms.
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> This is funny (I'm not taking the pee by the way) what's it got do with
> *us* anyway? Oracle obviously feel they have a Product & Market for it
> so good luck to them.
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> And as for forks FOSS loves forks "Here's the ball everyone have a kick"
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> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:49:59 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Mo Awkati <mawkati at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Wolves] Ubuntu 9.10 install
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>>Mo Awkati wrote:
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>>Hi Mo
>
>>Silly question, you may have already been asked it, have you tried
>>downloading and burning another 9.10 iso the one you have may be duff?
>
>>Also doe's 9.10 have a 'safe mode' install? from memory of my UNR, which
>>I'm on now, and the 'Live install' at work I don't think it does? Maybe
>>an ACPI=OFF blah blah blah.
>
>>I've not read all the responses to the thread so sorry if I'm talking
>>cobblers. I think you need to worry about *getting Ubuntu on* before
>>worrying about wifi ect. Maybe as has been suggested (I agree you
>>shouldn't have to in this day and age) do a text only install getting
>>the base system on then build it up from there.
>
>>I also agree with you its ridiculous if Mandriva loads and runs and
>>Ubuntu refuses but TBF I've seen that myself over the years e.g. RH will
>>SuSE wont blah blah blah..
>
>>I could of course say "Install Arch Linux, you know it make sense" but
>>I've my Ubudubu fanboy hat on tonight. Finally if it was me I would try
>>smearing the blood of a virgin goat on it, works for me :-)
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> Hi Peter
>
> I haven't downloaded another version.
>
> I tried the safe mode and that didn't work either. I saw on the Ubuntu support site that you could give some parameters at start up, I followed the instructions but nothing happened. I could not get it to a stage where I can specify the parameters.
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> The only option for me that I thought about after is to back up all my data and upgrade through the package manager. But first I will download another version of 9.10 and see what happens, and if that fails then the suggestion about the goat might be an option!!
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> Mo
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> From: Mo Awkati <mawkati at yahoo.co.uk>
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>>Mo Awkati wrote:
>
>>Hi Mo
>
>>Silly question, you may have already been asked it, have you tried
>>downloading and burning another 9.10 iso the one you have may be duff?
>
>>Also doe's 9.10 have a 'safe mode' install? from memory of my UNR, which
>>I'm on now, and the 'Live install' at work I don't think it does? Maybe
>>an ACPI=OFF blah blah blah.
>
>>I've not read all the responses to the thread so sorry if I'm talking
>>cobblers. I think you need to worry about *getting Ubuntu on* before
>>worrying about wifi ect. Maybe as has been suggested (I agree you
>>shouldn't have to in this day and age) do a text only install getting
>>the base system on then build it up from there.
>
>>I also agree with you its ridiculous if Mandriva loads and runs and
>>Ubuntu refuses but TBF I've seen that myself over the years e.g. RH will
>>SuSE wont blah blah blah..
>
>>I could of course say "Install Arch Linux, you know it make sense" but
>>I've my Ubudubu fanboy hat on tonight. Finally if it was me I would try
>>smearing the blood of a virgin goat on it, works for me :-)
>
> .Hi Peter
>
>>I haven't downloaded another version.
>
>>I tried the safe mode and that didn't work either. I saw on the Ubuntu support site that you could give some>parameters at start up, I followed the instructions but nothing happened. I could not get it to a stage where I>can specify the parameters.
>
>>The only option for me that I thought about after is to back up all my data and upgrade through the package>manager. But first I will download another version of 9.10 and see what happens, and if that fails then the .suggestion about the goat might be an option!!
>
>>Mo
>
> Ok I have given up. I am going to find that goat.
>
> I downloaded another ISO and the same issues. I tried a 9.04 CD and that worked fine and no problems. I am no convinced it is the 9.10 at fault and not my hardware.
>
> Have a look at this link, it makes interesting reading
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/karmic_koala_frustration/
>
> I will leave it at this now and go back to being productive with my PC!
>
> Thanks all for your input and suggestions.
>
> Goat come here now.... I said come here........... nothing will happen to you honest...............
>
>
Oops got mine sorted now this is from Ubuntu used fwcutter b43 its close :) pulled drivers for me too. All up and running now need to decide on what apps i need? Been fun so far. Did look for a goat but didn't find one
Mel
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