[Wolves] CHRISTMAS BASH LIST (Melville)

Wed Dec 16 00:19:08 UTC 2009

Start: 16/12/2009 - 7:30pm
> End: 16/12/2009 - 11:00pm
> The Copper Bowl
> 200 Birmingham New Road
> Wolverhampton
> WV4 6NZ
>
> This is it Guys I've placed a booking for 20 so I need to know whether
> I need to increase it.
>
> GOES
> 1. Dave Morley
> 2. Amo
> 3. Ad, possibly plus a guy from work
> 4. Alex
> 5. Pete (Don't see why you should all be happy, bah humbug)
> 6. Chris Ellis
> 7. John Ellis (Possibly)
> 8. I'll be there!!!!
> 9. Me Too! (chrisp)
> 10. Rob Parker
11.  Melville (droped of previous one :) )

> LATES
> 1.
>
> LOSERS (Those that stay at home on the Christmas bash week)
> 1. Stephen Parkes - out the night before and need to spend some time
> home with the family.
>
>
> --
> ?Rob Parker 
> http://rob.iparker.co.uk/


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> 1. Re: CHRISTMAS BASH LIST (chris procter)
> 2. Re: Ubuntu 9,10 install (Melville Thomson) (Duke Kordus)
> 3. Re: CHRISTMAS BASH LIST (Rob Parker)
> 4. Re: Ubuntu 9.10 install (Peter Cannon)
> 5. Re: Ubuntu 9.10 install (Dave Morley)
> 6. Re: Ubuntu 9.10 install (Peter Cannon)
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> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:02:36 +0000 (GMT)
> From: chris procter 
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> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Chris O'Rawe 
>> To: Wolverhampton Linux User Group 
>> Sent: Friday, 11 December, 2009 11:14:58
>> Subject: Re: [Wolves] CHRISTMAS BASH LIST
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>> 2009/12/9 Chris Ellis :
>>> Start: 16/12/2009 - 7:30pm
>>> End: 16/12/2009 - 11:00pm
>>>
>>> The Copper Bowl
>>> 200 Birmingham New Road
>>> Wolverhampton
>>> WV4 6NZ
>>>
>>>
>>> This is it Guys I've placed a booking for 20 so I need to know whether I
>>> need to increase it.
>>>
>>> GOES
>>> 1. Dave Morley
>>> 2. Amo
>>> 3. Ad, possibly plus a guy from work
>>> 4. Alex
>>> 5. Pete (Don't see why you should all be happy, bah humbug)
>>> 6. Chris Ellis
>>> 7. John Ellis (Possibly)
>>> 8. I'll be there!!!!
> 9. Me Too! (chrisp)
>
>>>
>>> LATES
>>>
>>> LOSERS (Those that stay at home on the Christmas bash week)
>>> 1. Stephen Parkes - out the night before and need to spend some time
>>> home with the family.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:56:16 +0000
> From: Duke Kordus 
> Subject: Re: [Wolves] Ubuntu 9,10 install (Melville Thomson)
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. Re: Save MySQL from Oracle (Alex Willmer)
>> 2. Re: Save MySQL from Oracle (Peter Cannon)
>> 3. Re: Save MySQL from Oracle (Chris Ellis)
>> 4. Re: Save MySQL from Oracle (Peter Cannon)
>> 5. Re: Ubuntu 9.10 install (Mo Awkati)
>> 6. Re: Ubuntu 9.10 install (Mo Awkati)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:57:15 +0000
>> From: Alex Willmer 
>> Subject: Re: [Wolves] Save MySQL from Oracle
>> To: Wolverhampton Linux User Group 
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>> 2009/12/14 Andy Jewell :
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Bear in mind that Monty has said he wants the EU to mandate that MySQL be re-released under a BSD or Apache-Style license; what he wants to do, is effectively claw MySQl back from being free software. Don't let him fool you.
>>
>> Indeed, MySQL is and has always been under the GPL. Anybody is free to
>> fork it, if Oracle sink their fangs in.
>>
>> Even so, I really can't raise th energy to care. I'd quite like it if
>> MySQL faded into irrelevancy, because PostgreSQL would replace it and
>> that would be a Good Thing.
>>
>> Alex
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:03:29 +0000
>> From: Peter Cannon 
>> Subject: Re: [Wolves] Save MySQL from Oracle
>> To: Wolverhampton Linux User Group 
>> Message-ID: <4B2637A1.7010101 at archlinux.us>
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>> Alex Willmer wrote:
>>
>>>because PostgreSQL would replace it and
>>> that would be a Good Thing.
>>
>> Postgres is the spawn of Satan don't listen to Alex he's been sectioned
>> before for saying stuff like this.
>>
>> As people have said Oracle can buy it and they will probably make some
>> sort of propriety version but at the end of the day its GPL'd so all
>> that can be done is forks made the source will be around for use forever
>> and ever amen.
>>
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:55:16 +0000
>> From: "Chris Ellis" 
>> Subject: Re: [Wolves] Save MySQL from Oracle
>> To: "Wolverhampton Linux User Group" 
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>> Peter Cannon wrote:
>> Alex Willmer wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>because PostgreSQL would replace it and
>>
>>> that would be a Good Thing.
>>
>>
>>
>> ____
>>
>> Postgres is the spawn of Satan don't listen to Alex he's been sectioned
>>
>> before for saying stuff like this.
>>
>>
>>
>> ____
>>
>> I agree with alex, pgsql is far superior and can actually compete at the same level as Oracle. ?I see no need for MySQL within Oracle, it cannot come close to matching Oracle and Oracle XE covers Oracles lowend customers.
>>
>> ____
>>
>> As people have said Oracle can buy it and they will probably make some
>>
>> sort of propriety version but at the end of the day its GPL'd so all
>>
>> that can be done is forks made the source will be around for use forever
>>
>> and ever amen.
>>
>>
>> ____
>>
>> There are already 2 forks of MySQL for the sun era, why the hell do we want another! Especially under differing licence terms.
>>
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>> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:00:46 +0000
>> From: Peter Cannon 
>> Subject: Re: [Wolves] Save MySQL from Oracle
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>> Chris Ellis wrote:
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>>> There are already 2 forks of MySQL for the sun era, why the hell do we
>>> want another! Especially under differing licence terms.
>>
>> This is funny (I'm not taking the pee by the way) what's it got do with
>> *us* anyway? Oracle obviously feel they have a Product & Market for it
>> so good luck to them.
>>
>> And as for forks FOSS loves forks "Here's the ball everyone have a kick"
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:49:59 +0000 (GMT)
>> From: Mo Awkati 
>> Subject: Re: [Wolves] Ubuntu 9.10 install
>> To: Wolverhampton Linux User Group 
>> Message-ID: <858825.61365.qm at web27206.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
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>>
>>
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>>>Mo Awkati wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Mo
>>
>>>Silly question, you may have already been asked it, have you tried
>>>downloading and burning another 9.10 iso the one you have may be duff?
>>
>>>Also doe's 9.10 have a 'safe mode' install? from memory of my UNR, which
>>>I'm on now, and the 'Live install' at work I don't think it does? Maybe
>>>an ACPI=OFF blah blah blah.
>>
>>>I've not read all the responses to the thread so sorry if I'm talking
>>>cobblers. I think you need to worry about *getting Ubuntu on* before
>>>worrying about wifi ect. Maybe as has been suggested (I agree you
>>>shouldn't have to in this day and age) do a text only install getting
>>>the base system on then build it up from there.
>>
>>>I also agree with you its ridiculous if Mandriva loads and runs and
>>>Ubuntu refuses but TBF I've seen that myself over the years e.g. RH will
>>>SuSE wont blah blah blah..
>>
>>>I could of course say "Install Arch Linux, you know it make sense" but
>>>I've my Ubudubu fanboy hat on tonight. Finally if it was me I would try
>>>smearing the blood of a virgin goat on it, works for me :-)
>>
>> Hi Peter
>>
>> I haven't downloaded another version.
>>
>> I tried the safe mode and that didn't work either. I saw on the Ubuntu support site that you could give some parameters at start up, I followed the instructions but nothing happened. I could not get it to a stage where I can specify the parameters.
>>
>> The only option for me that I thought about after is to back up all my data and upgrade through the package manager. But first I will download another version of 9.10 and see what happens, and if that fails then the suggestion about the goat might be an option!!
>>
>>
>> Mo
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>> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:12:49 +0000 (GMT)
>> From: Mo Awkati 
>> Subject: Re: [Wolves] Ubuntu 9.10 install
>> To: Wolverhampton Linux User Group 
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>>>Mo Awkati wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Mo
>>
>>>Silly question, you may have already been asked it, have you tried
>>>downloading and burning another 9.10 iso the one you have may be duff?
>>
>>>Also doe's 9.10 have a 'safe mode' install? from memory of my UNR, which
>>>I'm on now, and the 'Live install' at work I don't think it does? Maybe
>>>an ACPI=OFF blah blah blah.
>>
>>>I've not read all the responses to the thread so sorry if I'm talking
>>>cobblers. I think you need to worry about *getting Ubuntu on* before
>>>worrying about wifi ect. Maybe as has been suggested (I agree you
>>>shouldn't have to in this day and age) do a text only install getting
>>>the base system on then build it up from there.
>>
>>>I also agree with you its ridiculous if Mandriva loads and runs and
>>>Ubuntu refuses but TBF I've seen that myself over the years e.g. RH will
>>>SuSE wont blah blah blah..
>>
>>>I could of course say "Install Arch Linux, you know it make sense" but
>>>I've my Ubudubu fanboy hat on tonight. Finally if it was me I would try
>>>smearing the blood of a virgin goat on it, works for me :-)
>>
>> .Hi Peter
>>
>>>I haven't downloaded another version.
>>
>>>I tried the safe mode and that didn't work either. I saw on the Ubuntu support site that you could give some>parameters at start up, I followed the instructions but nothing happened. I could not get it to a stage where I>can specify the parameters.
>>
>>>The only option for me that I thought about after is to back up all my data and upgrade through the package>manager. But first I will download another version of 9.10 and see what happens, and if that fails then the .suggestion about the goat might be an option!!
>>
>>>Mo
>>
>> Ok I have given up. I am going to find that goat.
>>
>> I downloaded another ISO and the same issues. I tried a 9.04 CD and that worked fine and no problems. I am no convinced it is the 9.10 at fault and not my hardware.
>>
>> Have a look at this link, it makes interesting reading
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/karmic_koala_frustration/
>>
>> I will leave it at this now and go back to being productive with my PC!
>>
>> Thanks all for your input and suggestions.
>>
>> Goat come here now.... I said come here........... nothing will happen to you honest...............
>>
>>
> Oops got mine sorted now this is from Ubuntu used fwcutter b43 its close :) pulled drivers for me too.? All up and running now need to decide on what apps i need?? Been fun so far.? Did look for a goat but didn't find one
>
> Mel
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> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:02:38 +0000
> From: Rob Parker 
> Subject: Re: [Wolves] CHRISTMAS BASH LIST
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> Start: 16/12/2009 - 7:30pm
> End: 16/12/2009 - 11:00pm
> The Copper Bowl
> 200 Birmingham New Road
> Wolverhampton
> WV4 6NZ
>
> This is it Guys I've placed a booking for 20 so I need to know whether
> I need to increase it.
>
> GOES
> 1. Dave Morley
> 2. Amo
> 3. Ad, possibly plus a guy from work
> 4. Alex
> 5. Pete (Don't see why you should all be happy, bah humbug)
> 6. Chris Ellis
> 7. John Ellis (Possibly)
> 8. I'll be there!!!!
> 9. Me Too! (chrisp)
> 10. Rob Parker
>
> LATES
> 1.
>
> LOSERS (Those that stay at home on the Christmas bash week)
> 1. Stephen Parkes - out the night before and need to spend some time
> home with the family.
>
>
> --
> ?Rob Parker 
> http://rob.iparker.co.uk/
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:12:06 +0000
> From: Peter Cannon 
> Subject: Re: [Wolves] Ubuntu 9.10 install
> To: Wolverhampton Linux User Group 
> Message-ID: <4B2752E6.7050403 at archlinux.us>
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> Mo Awkati wrote:
>
>> Goat come here now.... I said come here.......... nothing will happen to
>> you honest...............
>
> Wow you found a virgin! round here even the slugs move like grease
> lightening in case they get goosed ;-)
>
> Can you remove the HDD? its not that silly SSD crap is it? Why not try
> the old trick of installing on the HDD on A-another machine then
> sticking the drive back in?
>
> Maybe invest in one of these
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260499552106 use
> this to do an install on the HDD via a PC?
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:43:45 +0000
> From: Dave Morley 
> Subject: Re: [Wolves] Ubuntu 9.10 install
> To: Wolverhampton Linux User Group 
> Message-ID: <1260870225.2692.20.camel at smegol>
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> Mo, sorry I've not responded sooner, it sounds to me like you're getting
> a resolution that can't be displayed.
>
> Try the following:
> start the cd hit F4, use the "safe graphics mode" option
> next hit f6, press space to select acpi=off noapic and nolapic
>
> That should brute force the driver to vesa at 1024x768 or 800x600
>
> It should also get around common issues with via chipset and hp machines
> amongst others.
>
> Also try running the "try ubuntu without any change to your computer"
> rather than the install ubuntu.
>
> another alternative you can try to get more information is to use the
> rescue mode on the alternate cd.
>
> Rescue mode basically gives you the ability to use a command line from
> the current installed system or from the cd itself. The plus here is
> you should be able to get the output of lspci -vvnn which will be useful
> if you need to report a bug on the gfx not functioning.
>
> The easiest way to do this is mount a usb drive
> "mkdir /mnt/disk"
> "mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk" (where sdb1 is the partition on the drive)
> then run:
> "lspci -vvnn> /mnt/disk/lspci.txt"
> "umount /mnt/disk"
>
> This will give you a text file you can add to a bug report.
>
> lspci -vvnn basically rips through the whole system getting as much info
> on each device as it possibly can.
>
> Report the bug as a regression on the previous version of ubuntu and add
> the file to the report this will help the gfx guys locate the issue more
> easily.
>
>
>
> --
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> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:46:38 +0000
> From: Peter Cannon 
> Subject: Re: [Wolves] Ubuntu 9.10 install
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> Dave Morley wrote:
>
>> Try the following:
>> start the cd hit F4, use the "safe graphics mode" option
>> next hit f6, press space to select acpi=off noapic and nolapic
>
> You bloody cheat I said that :-P
>
> Well the acpi=off at any rate
>
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