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Steven Maddox s.maddox at lantizia.me.uk
Wed Jan 8 17:46:21 UTC 2020

When we relaunched the LUG in August we started with a fresh install, we 
went from one list on mailman 2.1...

staffslug at staffslug.org.uk

and started with fresh new lists...

general at lists.staffslug.org.uk
meetings at lists.staffslug.org.uk
trips at lists.staffslug.org.uk

Mostly as we've got some people which have moved away but want to stay 
in touch, so they are on general@ but not meetings at .  Then anyone 
interested in the currently planned trip away (whatever that is at the 
time) can go on the extra trips@ list.

But we've imported the old list too (as well as our even older 
lug.org.uk list) so our whole history is viewable in one place on the 
HyperKitty archiver/forum style interface...  That was really trivial as 
the old Mailman 2.x can give you a giant mbox file for import to other 
stuff anyway.



I'm not sure which way lug.org.uk are going with theirs, I keep in touch 
with them though - so it might be worth me asking them. Mailman 3 has a 
lot of potential, but if you're not familiar with "Django" then it can 
be a bit different at times, and some bits feel a touch unfinished - but 
it's getting there.

Steven Maddox

On 08/01/2020 17:09, Adam Sweet via Wolves wrote:
> On 08/01/2020 14:08, Steven Maddox via Wolves wrote:
>> Hey Adam,
>> I feel like I may have mentioned this before (but possibly it was to
>> someone else) but we've (and by we I mean functionoffice.org, a
>> non-profit) set up a server specifically to be a multi-tenant Mailman 3
>> box.  Basically you get your own web interface, and hostname with SSL -
>> and the use of HyperKitty so that way new people can just use the
>> mailing list like a forum if they want to.
>> *At the moment it runs...*
>> - https://lists.functionoffice.org ... no lists on this yet, but there
>> will be shortly - mostly announce-only I expect
>> - https://lists.seaquake.net ... this is for our Seaquake project, only
>> a test list on this for now
>> - https://lists.staffslug.org.uk ... this has the 3 main mailing lists
>> of StaffsLUG... general, meetings and trips.
>> But it would be a 5 second job to add a (for example)...
>> - https://lists.wolveslug.org.uk
>> If you fancy it?
>> p.s. this newer Mailman 3 instance of ours has been running since August
>> without any issues, we ran a Mailman 2.1 before that... and looong
>> before that we were also on lug.org.uk's setup too.
>> There is something about Discourse that makes me think twice when I
>> looked at it before, I can't quite put my finger on it - maybe it's the
>> fear of it going "open core" in the future. :S
> Thanks Steve, that's a kind offer. At the moment I have no desire to
> migrate the mailing list out of lug.org.uk as they've been exemplary
> custodians and I don't really want to get into the weeds of trying to
> migrate, lose or split the mailing list archive.
> That said, Mailman 3 does look better as you say and yes, as someone
> mentioned outside of the list recently, Mailman 2 stores your password
> in plain text.
> Anyone who didn't realise that and is using a password they use for
> other things should probably go change their password to something they
> don't use for anything else here:
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/options/wolves
> If you don't want that password mailed to you on a monthly basis, turn
> that off in the same place.
> Note that when you signed up, the mailing list sign up page says the
> following:
> "You may enter a privacy password below. This provides only mild
> security, but should prevent others from messing with your subscription.
> Do not use a valuable password as it will occasionally be emailed back
> to you in cleartext."
> FWIW, I can't see your passwords.
> Hopefully the lug.org.uk admins will upgrade to Mailman 3 in the near
> future, though having looked at it, it doesn't appear to be trivial so I
> wouldn't expect it in a hurry. Did you upgrade from 2.1 to 3 Steve or
> just start afresh?
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