[Wylug-discuss] Favourite FOSS apps and tools?

Chris Brown snecklifter at gmail.com
Fri Jun 22 10:25:49 BST 2007


He takes the bait!

On 22/06/07, Towle, William <william.towle at echostar.com> wrote:
>
>   >  Bonus point for Emacs because vi sucks so hard its in a constant
> state of sucking itself through itself, out the rear and then repeating the
> process.
>
>   Nonsense. The only reason people think vi "sucks" is because they
> haven't been taught it properly.
>

No. They quickly realise that they don't want their digits performing the
finger-equivalent of The Nutcracker suite just to edit a text file.

It may be full of nuances,
>

bugs

but in general they /do/ fit in with those of the other Unix tools you use
> in combination with it, and are otherwise inter-consistent - in that order.
> If you aren't comfortable with Unix in general,
>

No, that's why I'm on this mailing list...

then fine - don't touch vi with someone else's bargepole: you'll never "get"
> it. On the other hand, in the hands of a reasonably proficient typer vi is
> amazing and VIm (with splittable windows, visual region selection,
> multi-level undo, ...) doubly so.
>

Emacs has all this plus a built-in psychotherapist. So there.

  Now I'm not saying emacs isn't also like that in its own way, but it makes
> more sense to believe Henry Spencer (to whom "those that don't understand
> Unix are doomed to reinvent it poorly" is attributed) was a vi user.
>

That makes no sense at all. Who cares what Henry Spencer used. Didn't you
know the only reason he wrote regex was to replace all the usenet postings
flaming vi before giving the archives to Google. That's right, you *think*
you're reading usenet history....

Chris

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