[Wylug-discuss] Favourite FOSS apps and tools?

Towle, William william.towle at echostar.com
Fri Jun 22 09:44:22 BST 2007


 >  Bonus point for Emacs because vi sucks so hard its in a constant
state of sucking itself through itself, out the rear and then repeating
the process. 
 
  Nonsense. The only reason people think vi "sucks" is because they
haven't been taught it properly. It may be full of nuances, but in
general they /do/ fit in with those of the other Unix tools you use in
combination with it, and are otherwise inter-consistent - in that order.
If you aren't comfortable with Unix in general, then fine - don't touch
vi with someone else's bargepole: you'll never "get" it. On the other
hand, in the hands of a reasonably proficient typer vi is amazing and
VIm (with splittable windows, visual region selection, multi-level undo,
...) doubly so.
 
  Now I'm not saying emacs isn't also like that in its own way, but it
makes more sense to believe Henry Spencer (to whom "those that don't
understand Unix are doomed to reinvent it poorly" is attributed) was a
vi user.
 
  Wills.
 
(hardware, kernel, /bin/sh; vi, find, xargs, grep, sed, sort; gcc,
binutils, make; tar, gzip/bzip2, access to source. What more do you
need?)
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