[Wylug-discuss] Favourite FOSS apps and tools?

[Chris Brown]

On 22/06/07, Towle, William <william.towle at echostar.com> wrote:
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>  He takes the bait!
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>   I hope you're not here to troll, that would be disappointing.
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My original pop at vi was intended as a joke at the long-running emacs vs vi
debate and thought some people would find it amusing. I was not expecting to
actually enter into a discourse about it but since it's a Slow Work Day I'm
tempted to say the least, especially since you're obviously a person that
holds text editing close to his heart. I've also learnt a new word -
"inter-consistent".

 >  Bonus point for Emacs because vi sucks so hard its in a constant state
> > of sucking itself through itself, out the rear and then repeating the
> > process.
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> >   Nonsense. The only reason people think vi "sucks" is because they
> > haven't been taught it properly.
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> No. They quickly realise that they don't want their digits performing the
> finger-equivalent of The Nutcracker suite just to edit a text file.
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>   That's just your opinion; it's hardly mine. Not all computer users find
> that keyboard-controlled software analogous to gymnastic exercises (or
> indeed ballet),
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Wha...? Really?

and not all computer users desire to use the mouse simply because it is
> there. vi wouldn't have evolved at all if there were more suitable
> replacements. Nobody said you /had/ to like it (it just happens to be the
> case that I do).
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With a passion, clearly.

It may be full of nuances,
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> bugs
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Okay, this was harsh I'll admit. I know of no bugs in vi. Because I so
rarely use it. Because it sucks.

but in general they /do/ fit in with those of the other Unix tools you use
> > in combination with it, and are otherwise inter-consistent - in that order.
> > If you aren't comfortable with Unix in general,
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> No, that's why I'm on this mailing list...
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Sorry, this was sarcasm. Dangerous stuff and I should have known better.
I've got plenty of *nix experience and its increasing one joyful day at a
time.

then fine - don't touch vi with someone else's bargepole: you'll never "get"
> > it.
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Fine. And you stay away from emacs - its for people who still laugh at
themselves and the world around them.

  Maybe "never" was a bit harsh there, but you admit limited experience of
> the environment in which vi runs, are unlikely to appreciate it being the
> way it is by implication from that, yet wish to hold the argument that it's
> buggy? Do elaborate; I'm intrigued.
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http://code.google.com/soc/vim/appinfo.html?csaid=9E132DFEDA0517AF

Don't see one for emacs. :)

Have a nice day.

Regards
Chris

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