[Wylug-discuss] [WYLUG-DISCUSS] Stuck with Ubuntu?
Mike Goodman
mikegoodman1 at gmail.com
Thu Mar 29 16:51:12 UTC 2012
On 29 March 2012 07:27, Andy Stanford <ajstanford at andystanford.me.uk> wrote:
> It stays fairly current, particularly with the more popular apps, but not so bleeding edge that you have to massage (or sledgehammer) it back into life after an update.
That's the second time in this thread I've seen the same appalling
American misquote. Edges cannot bleed. A leading edge, the correct
expression, can cause bleeding if sharp enough and on an appropriate
instrument. The edge itself, however, will not bleed however badly it
is mistreated. Would anyone still confused please use the alternative
correct term to imply a latest advance, cutting edge. :-)
> From what you've said about what you're looking for, it might be worth a try.
Indeed, it seems you have understood the problem. So I could rely on
very common apps such as FF. GIMP and whatever the default office
suite is not continuing to the point beyond which they are supported?
I've not found it very clear in the various distros' available docs so
I've been relying more upon a vaguely remembered WYLUG thread from
some weeks or months ago.
Mike
> On 28 Mar 2012, at 21:44, james riley <jimr1603 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In which case, I can answer a little of that.
>>
>> Stable fails the up-to-date problem epically. They will not make a
>> release until it is very ready, to solve the 6 month upgrade problem.
>> But this does mean that stable is still running openoffice, rather
>> than libre, for an example of how far behind it is.
>>
>> Testing is better, but I'm not sure how much better. For intents and
>> purposes, the software in it is stable enough for everything but
>> servers, and one day that'll be the next stable.
>>
>> Unstable breaks epically and all the time.
>>
>> Longer beards than mine will probably have more to say on the testing distro.
>>
>> James
>>
>> On 28/03/2012, Mike Goodman <mikegoodman1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 28 March 2012 20:40, james riley <jimr1603 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> After familiarity with ubuntu, debian seemed a safe bet for me. Happy
>>>> enough with that on my desktop.
>>>>
>>>> Due to extreme luck over various bits of hardware, the laptop plays
>>>> nicely with trisquel. You know, for when IceWeasel is too mainstream.
>>>>
>>>> You're about to get tonnes of suggestions. I'll give a
>>>> meta-suggestion. Try all of them. Or at least have a nosy at the
>>>> website, see what the people are like, see what the feel of it is.
>>>> Installs don't take that long, really. Sometimes an out-the-box
>>>> problem with one system will stay with you, and you alone, for ever
>>>> with that system.
>>>>
>>>> Certainly for me, I learn a lot more about my system by pressing
>>>> buttons until it breaks, then fixing it.
>>>>
>>>> James R
>>>
>>> I retired for an easier life, not to press buttons for the sake of it!
>>> ;-) The distro questions for me remain those of longevity and staying
>>> up to date with its default applications - without additional
>>> button-pressing. I like the look of Debian's LTR regime on the face of
>>> it, but does it keep the apps up to date? No real info on the site. I
>>> am a fan due to happy years spent on Debian server software. I
>>> wouldn't be happy though if I switch from Ubuntu only to find Debian,
>>> too, leaves me two full releases behind on my preferred browser or
>>> image manipulation app. Nor do I want a geek-only distro whereby I
>>> have to spend many hours configuring a standard app, available by
>>> default in most of the better known distros, when I may only use it
>>> once or twice. How does the Debian desktop stand up to those
>>> questions?
>>>
>>> As you can see, I am more likely to dismiss most suggestions rather
>>> than to try all. I'm looking for genuine recommendations rather than
>>> off-the-cuff ideas to throw into the brainstorming pot.
>>>
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