[Wylug-help] Swing Confusion: Oddly floating (J)Components
Willswills@vwsws1.vws.co.uk
Willswills at vwsws1.vws.co.uk
Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:13:30 +0100 (BST)
> I've got an application containing (all) Swing components which is
> not behaving; the interface has six alike panes, with controls in,
> and one "about" pane with just labels. The "control" panels all have
> a Checkbox each, and all seven are selectable through the tabs of a
> JTabbedPane.
Checkbox -> JCheck*B*ox (b->B. D'oh). Sorted.
Wills.
From martin at jamaro.org.uk Wed Sep 27 08:09:36 2000
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:09:36 +0100
From: Martin Rowe martin at jamaro.org.uk
Subject: [Wylug-help] Weird website problem
<PRE>Hi all
Earlier this month I got an email from a chap in France saying he
couldn't get to my open source web site as it prompted for a user ID &
password. This was news to me as there is no such restriction. I've just
had an email from a US user with the same problem. It seems intermittant,
as he was able to get in later.
The dbg400.net domain is managed by Easily.co.uk and points to my
Freeserve web site at www.dbg400.fsnet.co.uk (no masking - the fsnet URL
appears in the location box). The Frech bloke sent me the a screenshot of
the dialog box - have a look here
<<A HREF="http://www.dbg400.fsnet.co.uk/download/dialog.png">http://www.dbg400.fsnet.co.uk/download/dialog.png</A>> (2.6Kb) which seems
to point the blame at Easily. They, however, say it's nothing to do with
them and to take it up with my ISP.
Can anyone point me in the right direction. I'm not losing money over
this, but it is annoying - a password protected open source site does
come across as a bit daft :)
Regards, Martin
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</PRE>
From Simon.Wood at pace.co.uk Wed Sep 27 08:49:14 2000
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:49:14 +0100
From: Simon Wood Simon.Wood at pace.co.uk
Subject: [Wylug-help] Weird website problem
<PRE>Don't know if this is much use, but I failed to connect first time (via Junkbuster) with the message 'Bad file descriptor' which I usually get when I forget to start the server.
Repeated connections succeeded, but to <A HREF="http://www.dbg400.fsnet.co.uk/">http://www.dbg400.fsnet.co.uk/</A> NOT <A HREF="http://www.dbg400.net,">http://www.dbg400.net,</A> seems to be some redirection going on... These addresses resolve to different IP address (195.92.195.158 and 213.219.14.243 respectively)
Easily.co.uk resolves to 213.219.14.246 which looks suspicially like it might be in the same IP block as www.dbg400.net
Hope this helps.
Simon Wood
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From gary.stainburn at ringways.co.uk Wed Sep 27 09:10:57 2000
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:10:57 +0100
From: Gary Stainburn gary.stainburn at ringways.co.uk
Subject: [Wylug-help] Weird website problem
<PRE>On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Martin Rowe wrote:
><i> Hi all
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Earlier this month I got an email from a chap in France saying he
</I>><i> couldn't get to my open source web site as it prompted for a user ID &
</I>><i> password. This was news to me as there is no such restriction. I've just
</I>><i> had an email from a US user with the same problem. It seems intermittant,
</I>><i> as he was able to get in later.
</I>><i>
</I>
In a normal situation this is configured within the web server. I can't see the
DNS services of Easily.co.uk having anything to do with it.
><i> The dbg400.net domain is managed by Easily.co.uk and points to my
</I>><i> Freeserve web site at www.dbg400.fsnet.co.uk (no masking - the fsnet URL
</I>><i> appears in the location box). The Frech bloke sent me the a screenshot of
</I>><i> the dialog box - have a look here
</I>><i> <<A HREF="http://www.dbg400.fsnet.co.uk/download/dialog.png">http://www.dbg400.fsnet.co.uk/download/dialog.png</A>> (2.6Kb) which seems
</I>><i> to point the blame at Easily. They, however, say it's nothing to do with
</I>><i> them and to take it up with my ISP.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Can anyone point me in the right direction. I'm not losing money over
</I>><i> this, but it is annoying - a password protected open source site does
</I>><i> come across as a bit daft :)
</I>
Check which http server is being used and check the access control docs
for that server. If it's on an OS that has file permissions then check them.
Once you've checked the obvious, check the obscure. For instance,
what size is the server hardware, was it busy when the accesses failed?
You may not be able to get this info, but you may be able to get your ISP's
to check it out for you as they should be keeping such stats.
><i>
</I>><i> Regards, Martin
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</I>><i> Homepage - <A HREF="http://www.jamaro.org.uk">http://www.jamaro.org.uk</A>
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From nhaines at architec.co.uk Wed Sep 27 10:57:12 2000
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:57:12 +0100
From: Neil Haines nhaines at architec.co.uk
Subject: [Wylug-help] syslog
<PRE>Anyone help with this ?
Had /var/logs all working okay, but suddenly (after someone possibly messing
with system) the /var/log/secure , and /var/log/xferlog have stopped
logging. The syslog.conf is okay, but every time i kill/start the syslog, a
file named "syslog.conf.lock" is created with a value inside it.
Any help appreciated
Neil
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From jj at comp.leeds.ac.uk Wed Sep 27 14:20:31 2000
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:20:31 +0100 (BST)
From: Jim Jackson jj at comp.leeds.ac.uk
Subject: [Wylug-help] syslog
<PRE>
make sure syslogd is not running. Do a ps uax | grep sys
just to make sure.
Then start syslogd by hand, as root, from the commna dline in debug mode.....
# /usr/sbin/syslogd -n -d
It might be worth doing this from a script shell to capture the output for
later analysis.
Look at the output and see what it is complaining about.
Jim
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Neil Haines wrote:
><i> Anyone help with this ?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Had /var/logs all working okay, but suddenly (after someone possibly messing
</I>><i> with system) the /var/log/secure , and /var/log/xferlog have stopped
</I>><i> logging. The syslog.conf is okay, but every time i kill/start the syslog, a
</I>><i> file named "syslog.conf.lock" is created with a value inside it.
</I>><i> Any help appreciated
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Neil
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
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From bmbrol at bmb.leeds.ac.uk Fri Sep 29 19:08:14 2000
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 19:08:14 +0100
From: Ronan O'Leary bmbrol at bmb.leeds.ac.uk
Subject: [Wylug-help] Win2k Win98 Linux
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Hi
I have Win2K and Win98 installed as a dual boot on an Athlon 650 with =
one 20GB HD split into a number of partitions.
Previously I tried to install RedHad 6.1 Linux and I didn't get very far =
for a couple of reasons: the x server at the time did not support my =
graphics card and I could only get Linux to work if it was installed at =
the beginning of my HD, I think it had to be below somewhere before 2GB.
The latest releases of Xfree now support my nVidia GeForce card and =
after a bit of looking around I have decided to go for SuSe 7.0 and get =
the manuals etc that come with it. I have a couple of questions before I =
start again, and I am sorry if they are typical newbie questions!
OK:
1. Will the 2GB issue be a problem still. I have Win98 installed in the =
primary partition (4GB). When I last repartitioned my HD I tried to make =
a primary partition of 1GB for Linux OS files and to make the second =
logical partition active (and put Win98 there). This worked OK with =
fdisk but when I tried to install Windows it would not install onto the =
active "D" partition, and Win2K balked at the same stage saying =
something about another OS installed on the PC and it would reformat C =
which would have made it active.
If possible I would like to avoid partitioning my HD again, it took a =
long weekend to get Win2K working.=20
Does anyone have any advice about how to proceed with getting Linux =
installed. I have 3 potential partitions on the drive. If it helps =
matters I can get Partition Magic and run that either from Win98 or 2K.
2. I am assuming that there will be no problems having 3 OSs on my PC. =
At the moment boot.ini defaults to Win2K which I am happy with. I =
presume that LiLo has some facility to recognise the other OSs. I have =
also been recommended Xsol as a boot manager which I have downloaded. =
This is probably a very common problem but the last time I installed =
Linux I had terrible problems getting fdisk to recognise the partition =
which Linux had been on.
I hope that the questions are clear enough. Please presume absolutely no =
knowledge of Linux or installing OSs or even partitioning HDs.
Thanks for any help
Ronan
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From rg at nthong.freeserve.co.uk Sat Sep 30 07:16:48 2000
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 07:16:48 +0100
From: Roger Greenwood rg at nthong.freeserve.co.uk
Subject: [Wylug-help] Win2k Win98 Linux
<PRE>Easiest way by far is a separate disc - this way you won't upset windows
(which can get a bit tetchy). I would also recommend at least 8GB+ -
SuSE 7.0 comes with so much stuff you won't believe, and it won't fit
otherwise!!! A new disc is what - =A360 - =A380?
SuSE manuals are great - they really do have lots of clues as to what to
do when it goes wrong, but you are still going to have problems with
snazzy high spec. hardware (probably!). Summary - before you start the
install RTFM.
Good luck.
Roger G
><i> Ronan O'Leary wrote:
</I>><i> =
</I>
><i> Hi
</I>><i> I have Win2K and Win98 installed as a dual boot on an Athlon 650 with
</I>><i> one 20GB HD split into a number of partitions.
</I>><i> Previously I tried to install RedHad 6.1 Linux and I didn't get very
</I>><i> far for a couple of reasons: the x server at the time did not support
</I>><i> my graphics card and I could only get Linux to work if it was
</I>><i> installed at the beginning of my HD, I think it had to be below
</I>><i> somewhere before 2GB.
</I>><i> The latest releases of Xfree now support my nVidia GeForce card and
</I>><i> after a bit of looking around I have decided to go for SuSe 7.0 and
</I>><i> get the manuals etc that come with it. I have a couple of questions
</I>><i> before I start again, and I am sorry if they are typical newbie
</I>><i> questions!
</I>><i> =
</I>
><i> OK:
</I>><i> 1. Will the 2GB issue be a problem still. I have Win98 installed in
</I>><i> the primary partition (4GB). When I last repartitioned my HD I tried
</I>><i> to make a primary partition of 1GB for Linux OS files and to make the
</I>><i> second logical partition active (and put Win98 there). This worked OK
</I>><i> with fdisk but when I tried to install Windows it would not install
</I>><i> onto the active "D" partition, and Win2K balked at the same stage
</I>><i> saying something about another OS installed on the PC and it would
</I>><i> reformat C which would have made it active.
</I>><i> If possible I would like to avoid partitioning my HD again, it took a
</I>><i> long weekend to get Win2K working.
</I>><i> Does anyone have any advice about how to proceed with getting Linux
</I>><i> installed. I have 3 potential partitions on the drive. If it helps
</I>><i> matters I can get Partition Magic and run that either from Win98 or
</I>><i> 2K.
</I>><i> =
</I>
><i> 2. I am assuming that there will be no problems having 3 OSs on my PC.
</I>><i> At the moment boot.ini defaults to Win2K which I am happy with. I
</I>><i> presume that LiLo has some facility to recognise the other OSs. I have
</I>><i> also been recommended Xsol as a boot manager which I have downloaded.
</I>><i> This is probably a very common problem but the last time I installed
</I>><i> Linux I had terrible problems getting fdisk to recognise the partition
</I>><i> which Linux had been on.
</I>><i> =
</I>
><i> I hope that the questions are clear enough. Please presume absolutely
</I>><i> no knowledge of Linux or installing OSs or even partitioning HDs.
</I>><i> =
</I>
><i> Thanks for any help
</I>><i> =
</I>
><i> Ronan
</I>><i>
</I>
</PRE>
From mpc at comp.leeds.ac.uk Sat Sep 30 11:51:06 2000
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 11:51:06 +0100 (BST)
From: Mark P. Conmy mpc at comp.leeds.ac.uk
Subject: [Wylug-help] Win2k Win98 Linux
<PRE>
><i> Easiest way by far is a separate disc - this way you won't upset windows
</I>><i> (which can get a bit tetchy). I would also recommend at least 8GB+ -
</I>><i> SuSE 7.0 comes with so much stuff you won't believe, and it won't fit
</I>><i> otherwise!!! A new disc is what - =A360 - =A380?
</I>
You ARE kidding?
Our systems (which contain huge amounts of software) still weigh in at
only 2GB.
Even if you throw some source, how do you manage to squander that much
disk space?
Of course, having the space is nice. :-)
><i> > The latest releases of Xfree now support my nVidia GeForce card and
</I>><i> > after a bit of looking around I have decided to go for SuSe 7.0 and
</I>><i> > get the manuals etc that come with it. I have a couple of questions
</I>><i> > before I start again, and I am sorry if they are typical newbie
</I>><i> > questions!
</I>
If you have problems with the graphics, get in touch. We've played with
GeForce with XFree86 (including the NVidia/SGI OpenGL modules/libraries).
It's fairly straightforward and the results are very good.
><i> > 1. Will the 2GB issue be a problem still. I have Win98 installed in
</I>><i> > the primary partition (4GB). When I last repartitioned my HD I tried
</I>><i> > to make a primary partition of 1GB for Linux OS files and to make the
</I>><i> > second logical partition active (and put Win98 there). This worked OK
</I>><i> > with fdisk but when I tried to install Windows it would not install
</I>><i> > onto the active "D" partition, and Win2K balked at the same stage
</I>><i> > saying something about another OS installed on the PC and it would
</I>><i> > reformat C which would have made it active.
</I>><i> > If possible I would like to avoid partitioning my HD again, it took a
</I>><i> > long weekend to get Win2K working.
</I>><i> > Does anyone have any advice about how to proceed with getting Linux
</I>><i> > installed. I have 3 potential partitions on the drive. If it helps
</I>><i> > matters I can get Partition Magic and run that either from Win98 or
</I>><i> > 2K.
</I>
Newer versions of lilo etc. deal with large disks okay. Partition Magic
is probably the best idea for repartitioning (if you can get it to play
ball, which it doesn't always).
><i> > 2. I am assuming that there will be no problems having 3 OSs on my PC.
</I>><i> > At the moment boot.ini defaults to Win2K which I am happy with. I
</I>><i> > presume that LiLo has some facility to recognise the other OSs. I have
</I>><i> > also been recommended Xsol as a boot manager which I have downloaded.
</I>
There should be no problem with this. After Owen's talk, I am quite impres=
sed
with GRUB as a bootloader (very nice), but the pragmatist in me says that
a beginner should probably follow the recommendation of the distribution
rather than trying something new.
><i> > This is probably a very common problem but the last time I installed
</I>><i> > Linux I had terrible problems getting fdisk to recognise the partition
</I>><i> > which Linux had been on.
</I>
Eh? fdisk should just report what's in the partition table. Either
the partition is there or not.
In any case, try cfdisk if you have problems.
Mark Conmy
</PRE>
From paul.lindley" <paul.lindley at ntlworld.com Sat Sep 30 12:13:19 2000
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 12:13:19 +0100
From: paul.lindley paul.lindley" <paul.lindley at ntlworld.com
Subject: [Wylug-help] Win2k Win98 Linux
<PRE>Partition magic is the way to go for you, ive used it many times on my Win98
system to move and resize partitions. Partition magic will format for linux
swap and linux filesystems. It also comes with a boot manager which when
installed recognises my operating systems.
The only thing to rememeber is when installing linux and it asks you where
to put lilo for booting, put it in the root partition of your linux
installation. This way the bootloader with partition magic finds it
automaticaly.
Im a relative newbie too hope this helps.
Just because suse comes with 6 cds of applications dosnt mean youre going to
install them all.. ive never had problems with needing more than 2 gb.. but
so, what u got partition magic.. make more room !!!
</PRE>
From bmbrol at bmb.leeds.ac.uk Sat Sep 30 12:34:00 2000
Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 12:34:00 +0100
From: Ronan O'Leary bmbrol at bmb.leeds.ac.uk
Subject: [Wylug-help] Win2k Win98 Linux
<PRE>Hi
Thanks for the reply
><i> > Easiest way by far is a separate disc - this way you won't upset windows
</I>><i> > (which can get a bit tetchy). I would also recommend at least 8GB+ -
</I>><i> > SuSE 7.0 comes with so much stuff you won't believe, and it won't fit
</I>><i> > otherwise!!! A new disc is what - £60 - £80?
</I>
The problem with a separate disk is that I have an EIDE contoller with a HD,
Zip, CD-DVD and CD-RW attached, so I guess that is my lot isn't it.
><i> You ARE kidding?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Our systems (which contain huge amounts of software) still weigh in at
</I>><i> only 2GB.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Even if you throw some source, how do you manage to squander that much
</I>><i> disk space?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Of course, having the space is nice. :-)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > > The latest releases of Xfree now support my nVidia GeForce card and
</I>><i> > > after a bit of looking around I have decided to go for SuSe 7.0 and
</I>><i> > > get the manuals etc that come with it. I have a couple of questions
</I>><i> > > before I start again, and I am sorry if they are typical newbie
</I>><i> > > questions!
</I>><i>
</I>><i> If you have problems with the graphics, get in touch. We've played with
</I>><i> GeForce with XFree86 (including the NVidia/SGI OpenGL modules/libraries).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> It's fairly straightforward and the results are very good.
</I>
Thanks, I understand from the SuSE website that the installer should
autodetect my graphics card, so fingers crossed.
><i> > > 1. Will the 2GB issue be a problem still. I have Win98 installed in
</I>><i> > > the primary partition (4GB). When I last repartitioned my HD I tried
</I>><i> > > to make a primary partition of 1GB for Linux OS files and to make the
</I>><i> > > second logical partition active (and put Win98 there). This worked OK
</I>><i> > > with fdisk but when I tried to install Windows it would not install
</I>><i> > > onto the active "D" partition, and Win2K balked at the same stage
</I>><i> > > saying something about another OS installed on the PC and it would
</I>><i> > > reformat C which would have made it active.
</I>><i> > > If possible I would like to avoid partitioning my HD again, it took a
</I>><i> > > long weekend to get Win2K working.
</I>><i> > > Does anyone have any advice about how to proceed with getting Linux
</I>><i> > > installed. I have 3 potential partitions on the drive. If it helps
</I>><i> > > matters I can get Partition Magic and run that either from Win98 or
</I>><i> > > 2K.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Newer versions of lilo etc. deal with large disks okay. Partition Magic
</I>><i> is probably the best idea for repartitioning (if you can get it to play
</I>><i> ball, which it doesn't always).
</I>
Does this still mean that I should try to get LiLo installed into the first
part of the drive. Ideally I don't want to have to do any repartitioning so
if new LiLo or other loaders support 20GB I would prefer to try that, any
thougts?
><i> > > 2. I am assuming that there will be no problems having 3 OSs on my PC.
</I>><i> > > At the moment boot.ini defaults to Win2K which I am happy with. I
</I>><i> > > presume that LiLo has some facility to recognise the other OSs. I have
</I>><i> > > also been recommended Xsol as a boot manager which I have downloaded.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> There should be no problem with this. After Owen's talk, I am quite
</I>impressed
><i> with GRUB as a bootloader (very nice), but the pragmatist in me says that
</I>><i> a beginner should probably follow the recommendation of the distribution
</I>><i> rather than trying something new.
</I>
Will the distribution let me choose between 3 OSs?
><i> > > This is probably a very common problem but the last time I installed
</I>><i> > > Linux I had terrible problems getting fdisk to recognise the partition
</I>><i> > > which Linux had been on.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Eh? fdisk should just report what's in the partition table. Either
</I>><i> the partition is there or not.
</I>
I don't know what happened, but there was a logical drive which Linux had
been on, but fdisk didn't see it and wouldn't let delete the logical or
extended partitions because it said they didn't exist, and it only reported
15GB rather than 20GB. Fdisk /mbr may have worked but I didn't know about
that at the time, but I had to install Win98 and do fdisk again and delete
all the partitions and start again.
><i> In any case, try cfdisk if you have problems.
</I>
Is this online?
Thanks again for both the replies
Ronan
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