[YLUG] Update fedora 10

[Patrick Dupre]

Hi Mike,

> A couple of points -
>
> 1) You mention you started X from tty 1 - this may be problematic in
> F10, and you should go to one of the other tty >1 but not 1 to startx.
I tried with tty 2 with the same failure.
>
> This is because previously tty7 was reserved for X and now it is tty1.
>
> 2) So now we understand that you did a clean install but that it had a
> problem towards the end of the install with X. I have installed F10 on
> 4 machines now and none had any problem going to X. Maybe I was just
> lucky that none of my graphics cards had the known kms problem.
> In fact if you do a graphical install the default at firstboot is to
> go direct into X and then allow only login for the non-root user in
> gnome.  If this is the case did you break in to the firstboot and
> prevent it from running? Or when the X crash happened did you then
> login as root to tty1 without X and try to force startx? This sounds
> like you never did get firstboot to run?  Please confirm.  If this is
> the case how did you create the non-root user(s)?
You are right, I guess that I did never run firstboot.
How I do it now ?
Right now, I only log in root, but I created manually an user
(editing passwd). The result of startx is similar.

I tried nomodeset several times and it fails the same way.

Thank for your help.

>
> I still think that a possibility is that because there are some Radeon
> cards that are known to have a problem with modesetting (and by this I
> am talking about kernel modesetting which is a new feature in F10) you
> may need to use the "nomodeset" parameter to the boot line to prevent
> the system doing kernel modesetting during the boot.  This is not a
> driver issue but is a new feature in the kernel that is known not to
> be fully functioning with some graphics cards - and it may be that
> yours is one of the cards that it does not play well with.  What
> kernel modesetting does is to set the graphics parameters by probing
> the card during boot.
>
> I did not remember you saying that you have actually tried to turn off
> modesetting during boot?  It is certainly worth trying that approach -
> and if you can boot with that parameter even to a non-X tty you ought
> to be able to startx from tty2 for example, but maybe that is only
> possible if you do set nomodeset at boot.
>
> See
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KernelModesetting
> http://www.heise-online.co.uk/open/What-s-new-in-Fedora-10--/features/112093
>
> Also have a look at the section concerning Radeon cards at
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F10_bugs
>
> When you have tried turning off kernel modesetting then post again to
> tell us whether this made any difference.
>
>

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