[Bradford] Fedora users ?

Wed Dec 12 17:13:07 UTC 2012

It was Preuprade that I used - I would have used yum but the
documentation dissuaded me. From the manual:

Upgrade to current release directly
Preupgrade provides an upgrade directly to the latest version of Fedora
from the previous two versions. It is not necessary to upgrade to
intermediate versions. For example, it is possible to upgrade from
Fedora 15 to Fedora 17 directly, but not directly from earlier
versions. 

I did 15 t 16.

I see that this is no longer supported. However most of the "exiting"
software that I run is music related and obtained from non-fedora
sources. No, I do not use LMMS.
-- 
Regards
David 
________________________________________________________________________
mob 07981 916330 

On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 16:56 +0000, Alice Kaerast wrote:
> The Fedora upgrade to the version with Gnome 3 was never advertised as
> an upgrade, the recommended path was always to perform a clean
> install.  I know other vendors also recommend clean installs, but
> Fedora really do mean it (and personally I prefer to do clean installs
> rather than upgrades anyway).
> 
> A clean install of Fedora for a Grandma who only wants to browse the
> web, email funny pictures and use Skype is perfectly fine.  You can do
> everything on Fedora that you can on Ubuntu (except have all your
> searches spied upon[0]), but it isn't always as easy and you'll
> probably find more tutorials written for Ubuntu than Fedora.
> 
> I've always found Centos more stable than Ubuntu server, but that
> might just be my usage patterns.  With Centos though you accept that
> you don't get the latest and greatest software in the default
> repositories, and in return you get people like me having already
> tested the available software for stability. You are of course welcome
> to install any extra software you like, but it won't necessarily be
> supported by the Centos community.  I wouldn't recommend Centos as a
> desktop OS for most users, but there are times it would make sense -
> eg. all you need is a web browser and you have to keep updates to a
> minimum.
> 
> Personally I'm very happy with Crunchbang Linux on my laptop and
> desktop.  After logging in the RAM usage will be in the region of
> 128MB, which leaves plenty of resources for something more useful than
> animating window resizing.  But then I'm an old-school Linux user from
> the 90s, and was quite happy with the window managers of that era.
> 
> [0] http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do
> 
> Regards
> Alice
> 
> 
> On 12 December 2012 15:49, David Parkin <david at davidparkin.com> wrote:
> > I've always assumed that RHEL was bug-free, after all Fedora's done the
> > testing. Software installation can be a click or two, or a "yum
> > install". Gnome 2 was a perfectly decent desktop, though others were
> > available. It's downfall for me was Gnome 3 plus the dodgy upgrade.
> > There was something amiss with the replacement header file for QT so the
> > whole installation failed. Not one for Grandma. Might try CentOS. Or
> > Mint.
> > --
> > Regards
> > David
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > mob 07981 916330
> >
> > On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 13:47 +0000, Brian wrote:
> >> I do recognise that, possibly, most people who work in Linux,
> >> professionally, will work with RHEL and so that will obviously be
> >> their preference. After all, they know many of the on-going bugs and
> >> flaws and how to fix them. However, can they say that they can install
> >> all the popular software that Ubuntu has in their Software Centre just
> >> with a couple of clicks? Before GNOME 3 has Fedora done a fraction as
> >> much as Canonical to make a user-friendly Desktop? I do spend a lot of
> >> time getting software to work on Ubuntu that isn't really mainstream
> >> but mainstream software is easy to install and maintain. I've tried
> >> installing software on Fedora/CentOS, that is just a matter of clicks
> >> on Ubuntu, but on Fedora/CentOS it is a major and painful job. RHEL
> >> might be considered the OS that separates the men from the boys,
> >> because   it is so hard to manage, but I'd go for Debian any day. Up
> >> until recently I've had at least one Fedora or CentOS installation but
> >> I was glad to get rid and use Debian instead.
> >> Brian
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ______________________________________________________________________
> >> From: David Parkin <david at davidparkin.com>
> >> To: Nick Rhodes <nick at ngrhodes.co.uk>
> >> Cc: bradford at mailman.lug.org.uk
> >> Sent: Wednesday, 12 December 2012, 12:52
> >> Subject: Re: [Bradford] Fedora users ?
> >>
> >>
> >> I've used Red Hat or Fedora forever, Red Hat 7.3 I think. Always
> >> worked
> >> fine for me until two things happened. I tried to upgrade using their
> >> preferred method which didn't work. When I finally fixed it by
> >> mounting
> >> the old distro on a live DVD version and tampering with rpm it looked
> >> a
> >> mess, plus it came up with Gnome 3.
> >>
> >> In short, I would say it used to be fine but I am now looking for a
> >> replacement (not Ubuntu).
> >> --
> >> Regards
> >> David
> >> ________________________________________________________________________
> >> mob 07981 916330
> >>
> >> On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 11:54 +0000, Nick Rhodes wrote:
> >> > I know various distributions are in use, Ubuntu is popular and
> >> probably
> >> > a closet Gentoo user somewhere too, but I don't think I've heard of
> >> > anyone using Fedora ?
> >> >
> >> > Been playing with Fedora 17 in a VM using XFCE and it seems to be a
> >> lot
> >> > less crashy and broken configy than it used to be.
> >> >
> >> > So does anyone use Fedora as their regular desktop ?
> >> > Is it now at the point where you would trust it on your
> >> parents/grans PC ?
> >> >
> >> > Cheers, Nick
> >> >
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